Massive disparity between top and bottom melee specs

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:dracthyr_sweat:

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Not quite sure what you mean here. :smiley: I’m not just sitting in melee tanking it.

It’s mostly passive healing. They aren’t expending many globals for healing so it’s extremely efficient.

RSS is the most popular bracket at this point. 16,778 matches played and 100k+ rounds in the last 72 hours. Compare that to 3s at 15,561 matches played. In terms of time spent, that’s 4-5x+ what you’re getting from traditionally 3s. While I still enjoy 3s from time to time, just way easier todo shuffle lately.

It’s relative/percentage though. How often the spec is played or not played isn’t how this stat is being calculated.

The DH is actually lower if you want to get into the details though. Reason being, the MORE a spec is being played, the more likelihood you have potential overlap. Like in a double DH match. The chance a DH dies is higher, so it ends up sku’ing the number.

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I’m not tilted, I’m amused. It’s the truth against 1800 bad rogues, sure.

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he’s hardstuck 1400 on rogue, he doesn’t know any better

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It all becomes so clear.

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Because people either don’t know the game (my point about cloak and physical cc from the other thread-Who was right there btw?) or I say things that counter a whining narritive.

Like if you’re bad into dk that may not mean DK op. DK wasn’t a top tier spec in any point in Shadowlands arena and to suggest it was is actually false.

The two best melee by a long shot were Ret/War. Whole expac they dominated.

Except I got 1600 in the first day of season and essentially quit b/c I’d got my tier piece.

Enjoying getting stripped of your narritive?

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No you’re not

Why are you of all ppl talking down to anyone lol

Everytime you talk about the game it’s sprinkled with errors like ferals do not have ironbark friend

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Yes and no. Likely not in the way people are thinking though. The DH number would actually be lower if you had an even split always in your sample. But as warzog mentioned, you get lobbies with double dh. Beyond that, you get lobbies with sub, arms, dh, etc. and in those smaller contexts, DH can actually die. If you can’t lock the DH down though, there is likely a better target.

Like if you put sub, arms, dh, and feral in the game, the feral is going to be the target always. So the numbers give us a close guess at what’s happening.

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It looks like you have never been above 2100 at any point in DF. You are not facing rogues that will use their kit to completely shut you down. You do not have the experience to talk on this topic. Next.

This came off a little more cocky than I intended and I am still learning a lot myself, but I can say playing some wildly skilled rogues has really given me heart palpitations and demo has tools to use in a stun (unless they use evasion ofc)

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1600 week 1 was completely free, and you got absolutely farmed afterwards

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Not the same thing as being stuck 1400, and aside from 3 bad days in the middle I’m mostly even. I stopped playing 2 weeks ago to focus on raid which is why the drop off @ th 17th.

BTW who was right about Cloak not being an physical immunity? I’m just going to keep coming back to that over and over again.

Dude, you want to accuse me of being ‘false’ then proceed to make arguments which themselves are false.

You good?

August 1st, 2022. Idiot.

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idk, you’re still sub 1500 on sin even though you started playing sub and couldn’t break 1500 in shuffle or 3s as sub with below 50% win rate. seems hard stuck 1400 to me.

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This dude oozes insecurity.

That was 2 years ago. What you done lately? We’re talking about the current state of PvP.

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I started sin, got what I wanted and q solo for lols on sub and to finish gear.

BTW who was right about Cloak?

You mean when all you were whining about rogue being ‘unklillable’ and I farmed them to duelist?

Right. Apparently rogues are just as ‘unkillable’ then as now, so we are talking about the same thing.

Jesus H.

Explain to me how you and your team are ‘good’ for playing like npc’s into rogue teams.

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You farm them at 1800 in shuffle (a format and rating where rogue can get trolled by bad teammates ruining their DR). Thus, you have not experienced a skilled rogue taking over a game.

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idk, outlaw was pretty unkillable in the last 2 shadowlands seasons

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Farmed them at 2200 in SL buddy, those rogues were a hell of a lot better than what I got in 2200 shuffle games.

Ye first month of S3 or S4 then they got hit with the nerf stick with defensive cdrs. Didn’t complain about that either b/c 15s downtime on evasion was sort of dumb, but so was Ret/War.

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You aren’t in 2200 shuffle games. I’m also facing them at 2100 mmr 3s/2s games rn. Did shroud of midnight or w/e it’s called exist in SL? I didn’t really play then at all.

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no, there was no veil of midnight in sl. rogues instead relied on the super skillful method of triple resonating a kill target in a stun

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No the other defensives were stronger and we had way less dmg outside cd’s across the board. RMX could just kite/cc forever if you didn’t cut off the map with position.

VS decent rogues you’re going to have to have a conversation with your heals to see who trinkets/Saves in open if necessary. If 2-3 ppl trink the open then yes you’re in for a bad time next go.

Imagine what would happen if you tripple shadowfury during cd’s and get everyone’s trinket? Would you ask for nerfs to Warlock if someone dies a few seconds later when you have DR or some damage?

I was last season. Will be this season too. Rogues at 2200 in solo are like 1800-1900 on ladder comparatively.