Blizzard, I’m desperately farming the tactical quests to try to get this quest, but the RNG is something else. You see, you have to be lucky to summon 1/4 of the Templars, and then there’s the chance of getting 1/5 from the card you receive. It’s really hard like this; I’ve been farming so much that I can’t take it anymore. Anyone with bad luck just gets frustrated with this. It’s too much RNG to try to get a BiS ring/trinket.
First solution: Being able to choose the quest.
2nd Solution: Being able to share quests, like it was in the Emerald Dream Quests a few patches ago…
Please, Blizzard, it’s already bad enough farming so many Silithids to complete 15x Combat Idols, plus a fortune to make 20x Logistics Idols and 20x Idols for Tactics, and still relying 9/20 chance to get the quest from the envelopes.
Quest: https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=8538/the-four-dukes
Item: https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=21508/mark-of-cenarius
Main Quest: https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=8573/champions-battlegear
1 Like
There’s signets you can use to summon specific templars to reduce RNG. Tacticals are for sure the easiest badge to acquire.
1 Like
Yes, but even so, I can’t reduce the RNG to get the Dukes quest. I’ve already done over 30 quests, and it still hasn’t dropped.
If it’s too much RNG for you then just don’t get the trinket.
1 Like
Honestly the whole CC Mission stuff needs to be redone.
I have no idea why they thought having you obtain 50+ tokens (total from 3 different avenues) to get epics/rares that were probably already replaced or about to be replaced, was a good idea.
It’s not even a “but this is seasonal”, it’s straight “you will have better before you complete these”; even with the SoD revamp that these items apparently went through.
1 Like
You’re absolutely right. This quest is hellish.
I was wondering why they went from tier tokens, to tier tokens + scarab currency, and each token can require different currency…but said currency drops from the same content…oh and throw in a rep grind too.
…like, 20 years ago…what problem were they trying to solve with all these convoluted solutions.
or why did they go from simple flow of pick up quest, share it with a friend to…get an item, open item, open envelope, accept quest, use item to manually target a person to share quest (incursions/AQ quests)…like…
1 Like
The QQ is so real. Do the quests to get your earthstrike or don’t raid with earthstrike.
1 Like
To stretch the content out. By requiring a ‘currency’ along with a ‘token’ you increase the time it takes to acquire.
Most-likely they had originally envisioned us going through the “normal modes” of each Raid, in SoD, then going to the “heroic modes” (ie H2, non-Black Trial; don’t think AQ has any), and finally onto “mythic modes” (ie H3, BWL Black Trial; AQ’s original plan for Hardmode).
…but we just skipped the first two and went straight to the hardest, most gear-rewarding, modes; chewed through that and said, “when [insert next raid tier]”.
Note: I fully believe they had intended the AQ Hardmode to be an “all or nothing” bargain; wipe too much on the hardmode and get NO gear. None. Ziltch. “You get nothing! Good day sir!” But the backlash made them retool; hence the PTR being delayed, and the bugs we still got with the release.
This was designed to force us to play the safer version of AQ; afterall, are any of you going to risk a ‘no drops lockout’ while in BWL/MC gear, which would net us less gear, and increase the content’s “life”.
But all that went out the window, so the idols and scarabs were substituted in to draw out the content.
…can’t wait to see what they do for Naxx! 
1 Like
Exactly, but they should really rethink these things. We’re not the same players from 2005 anymore. You have no idea how much I farmed, and luckily, last night the quest finally dropped… I couldn’t believe it. Now I just need to kill the dukes and get exalted with the Cenarion Circle… YES, YOU EVEN HAVE TO BE EXALTED. It’s so much RNG farming, it’s insane. Nobody can handle this anymore.
1 Like