I want to take the time today to thank Dwarf Lord for the excellent ZG run yesterday. he saved a lot of gear for me, and now I have a good tanking sword and some good dps items.
Additionally i would like to thank Stephen for his kind donation of his share of the GDKP pot, I appreciate it a great deal.
I would also like to apologize to Dwarf Lord for what I said about him in my prior post. I was wrong, and I’m not afraid to admit it.
I still think it’s easy to get taken advantage of in GDKPs, but apparently I was just talking to the wrong kind of people.
Horde is by far more toxic on Whitemane, and GDKP group will always be looking for a sucker to take advantage of, but this isn’t a one and done for me bro, hit me up and we’ll keep going and get some more stuff
Previously you were having trouble getting going in GDKP and had a lot of negative opinions about it. Then you got carried, funneled gear, and given some gold for free… now GDKP is great and you were wrong about everything before?
There are people who run GDKP like a business. They have 4, 5, 6, 7 warriors and take massive tank and host cuts and run 20 raids per week. They attract gold buyers to their raids and pressure them to spend a lot of gold. These GDKP admins (rumours) then sell gold as well.
There are also other people who just want to form a GDKP raid and if something sells for a lot cool, if they gold pot is not huge, its whatever. They just want to play the game.
I did a ZG with Warbro, we had some ppl from stream join in on the fun, we had some random pugs, we had some geared carries come and pump. That is the state of the game, lots of geared people who just want to pump and there is nothing wrong with lesser geared players getting easy gear.
There are many naxx geared characters who run old content for the rare stuff, zg mount, thunderfury, DFT, etc. This means lots of new players can go to a raid and get tons of gear fast.
Sometimes people give away free gold, or donate their GDKP cut, it is what it is.
Ultimately when people play the game, they just want to belong, and have a fair shot at gear
Dwarflord didn’t just carry him he changed his whole GDKP experience.
People do this all the time I remember in Diablo 2 some random guy joined my game and dropped so much gear and runes and said take it. Then he asked where I put my skill points and told me to reroll so I could do it right and brought the gear to that toon. And proceeded to level with me. That’s what these games are all about. People forget it’s a social game first and the sweat aspect is last on some people’s list.
You expressed a negative view of GDKP because you weren’t getting access to the kinds of groups that Dwarf Lord was. In fact, you specifically said…
and then proceeded to call attention to the fact that the experience as someone without these connections is much more negative. Now, in response to your post, Dwarf Lord has reached out to you and engaged you with those connections but you are now leaning on an opportunity that most other players don’t get.
You might just have had a sip of the ol’ Kool Aid, my friend.
Furthermore, you had items reserved for you in a GDKP run and were gifted a cut of a pot that gave you the advantage of more buying power in future runs. Do you think this is a typical GDKP experience?
Anyone who likes Era is missing out if they don’t watch Dwarf Lord’s streams and/or YouTube videos. Real nice and funny guy and a fountain of helpful tips. Plus he’s a total WoW fanatic, which I can respect.
I think the game is full of ultimately good people, a lot of new players fly under the radar because they don’t network with discord.
I think GDKPs are the only fair and even loot system, if you think there is a better loot system ask yourself if a mage could get thunderfury and everyone in the raid would be happy about it.
Starting out is rough, you have no gold and you can’t contribute much to the run, starting out as a warrior is next to impossible. You need people to lean on, there is no shame in it.
I hope you can see where there might be some confusion.
You certainly can and I will never be one to tell you differently. However the point isn’t that you gave him gold and that this is bad. The point is that Warbro had a fairly negative outlook on GDKP, then went through what any rational person could describe as a fairly atypical GDKP experience, and changed his tune rather rapidly.
How you guys run your GDKP, or loot system in general, is entirely up to you but it’s not representative of what’s currently happening, nor does it entirely invalidate the experience Warbro had initially. Regardless of whether or not he thinks it does.
I agree but let me ask you this… at any point in that D2 experience, did you have to pay him for the priviledge of that help?
No, he just randomly came and helped me, a noob at the time, out no questions asked and ended up becoming a really good friend during my time playing d2.
That’s what I figured. I’ve had similar experiences, being on both ends of it to… the one getting gifted things and the one gifting things. I am completely with you in that it’s great way to get people into communities. In fact, that’s something that tends to happen a lot in WoW. You meet someone new, you bring them on runs, nobody needs anything and so they get a bunch of stuff. Sometimes they disappear and you never see them again but sometimes they become a part of your community and you have an online friendship with them for many years to come.
What undermines all of this in GDKP though is the fact that you pay for the priviledge. So Dwarf Lord may have given Warbro a leg up, one that most people don’t get, but it plays out more like a “first one’s free” type of situation. If Warbro wants to come to future runs and continue to be a part of that community, he’s gotta pay.
That kinda takes the shine off of it… at least to me.
That doesn’t really address what I said. I’m just responding to what was written, sir. If this was gear that was going to rot otherwise, perhaps Warbro should ammend his statement to be more clear?
As it stands now, it reads like he was given preferrential treatment in the run. Which you are also certainly welcome to do by the way… as I said, you can handle your runs however you like. However, that’s not a strong case for GDKP as a whole.
