The Warcraft franchise has never had high intellect as a requirement. Just like Star Trek.
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Sure, but I’m saying that’s a given. Whether they joined the Alliance or Horde the edges were always going to be sanded off of playable man’ari. It’s not a “the Alliance are too precious to accept this” thing and more of a “there’s a line as to how evil we can make a player option and not break the game by having them be a Champion of Azeroth”.
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That’s certaintly true. 
All I’m saying is there’s a middle ground between Pychotic Evil Mass Murderer and Santized White Knight.
There’s a ton of MMOs that let you play how see your character, while maintaining that their actions are for the greater good, from a certain point of view. The Old Republic has that concept down to a science and it’s actually a ton of fun
I think, in theory at least, evil concepts need relatively less sanding down to fit them into the horde than they do alliance, because part of that faction’s identity was about rejects and misfits coming together when nobody else would take them.
Though as Man’ari have been presented, you’d need to chop them down pretty extremely no matter what. But it strikes me as weird that the game doesn’t try to water down their past but still makes them playable anyway; the concept seems so choking that it doesn’t seem sensible for them to have a place anywhere in the game outside of being tied to a draenei enforcer, away from everyone else. Otherwise Velen’s word doesn’t mean much when they ought to be killed on sight by any other race.
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The good writers seem to be concentrating on Diablo IV. Sanctuary’s dysfunctional First Family has yielded a trio of very well done characters
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It’s a bit silly to think that every single eredar over the course of 20,000 years was Legion-aligned. We have at least two exceptions in game with the random rogue in Dalaran and the Illidari in TBC. No doubt there were other deserters over the many years, as well as said deserters descendants.
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The ones we got aren’t deserters or rebels or anything. They were participants who only changed their minds after the Legion was defeated.
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Considering you can say your character was born somewhere other than Argus, even as a man’ari, it’s pretty much up to you to roleplay whatever your character’s history was, not that it matters.
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It’s not about RP, it’s about the story. The story NPCs we got for the Man’ari are not deserters or rebels. They are members of the Legion who only changed their minds after the Legion was defeated.
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So far. Ol’ boy in Dalaran could always be made relevant, especially now that his house is getting into a car wreck.
Even Kil’jaeden can fall into that. I mean his body language and dialogue with Sargeras in the Tomb of Sargeras trailer hints towards that. His relationship with his best friend is gone, his world is a hollow wreck, numerous failures under his belt and what does he have to show for it? Nothing. In the Tomb of Sargeras finale cinematic, he even confesses that he continued to follow Sargeras because he felt that he could not be stopped.
There is also the question of why Sargeras posed as his pre-fel corrupted self to the Eredar leaders. He knew Velen would reject the offer because of his power of foresight. Archimonde would’ve joined regardless given Archimondes desire for power. I mean he ratted out his mentor to Velen and Kil’jaeden then continued with his mentors experiments with demons. Kil’jaeden was the only one that needed… convincing.
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Exactly. If they were shown as the oppressed underclass of the Man’ari during Legion or were helping us in Argus, that would be one thing.
This group simply decided begging for mercy from the Draenei and army of the light was safer/better than whatever mad max in hell scenario is going on between the remnants of the Legion.
If an orc child is damned due to their parents/grandparents actions in certain posters’ eyes, I don’t see how the guys who instigated the corruption of the orcs and razed planets for millenia are suddenly bros just because they joined the blue team.
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It would make more sense if the particular man’ari being recruited were something like later forced converts from draenei captured on the rare occasions when the Legion nearly caught them (like those who stayed behind with Askara on Shar’gel to slow the Legion while their people finished evacuating), or perhaps even sargerei from AU Draenor who regret losing their faith during the events of WoD.
As opposed to just offhandedly banket-reversing what had always previously been portrayed as Sargeras basically “reformatting” the bulk of Argus’ population into what he wanted for his Legion: bloodthirsty monsters who all immediately tried to murder Velen and his followers and thereafter reveled in the horror and destruction they caused.
It was also heavily implied back in Legion that Archimonde had already been communing with the demons through Thal’kiel’s skull and was probably secretly on Team Sargeras even before the Dark Titan reached Argus, likely intending to cast his vote in favor of accepting the deal while being the only one who knew beforehand what it actually entailed. Archimonde’s reason for betraying Thal’kiel and the pre-demonic echoes of him on Argus painted a fairly clear picture of him already being a callous and brutal individual who would have gladly accepted the power on offer while knowing full well the truth of what it would do to his people.
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I like the line in their unlock quest that went like, “They turned me into a weapon; I’ll teach them to fear that weapon.” But also, DK main for many years so Good Guys Who Dress Like Doom Monarchs are a thing I’m very accustomed to.
We’re all chess pieces in the games between the Titans and the Void Beings; the Man’ari just realized a little late.
How do you decide who “deserves” redemption? One needs redemption because one is undeserving. They are all “undeserving”.
In the end, it seems to be how much you think the character should suffer.
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I think intergalactic genocide is a pretty reasonable line to draw.
There is no evidence that the Burning Legion committed any genocide.
The only stated genocides are that of the Draenei, Theramore, and Teldrassil.
This is funny fan-fiction and nothing more.
alright dude, come on you can do better then that
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Uhm, you do realize that the Man’ari never committed “intergalactic omnicide”, Yes?
They tried, and failed.
Attempts are not a crime. Jaina attempted to drown Orgrimmar, but failed, and so no one ever holds it against her. (rightfully so)
The Man’ari never committed “intergalactic omnicide”. What’s all this funny headcanon going on here?!
And now the Man’ari realized that they were being duped and that intergalactic omnicide is not a good goal, but they were only ever afraid of the Void. As we learn from dialogue in Argus, the Man’ari genuinely believed that they were defending the Cosmos from the darkness of the Void. Now they have found the path to redemption, and the Alliance abandons no one, and the Man’ari shall finally have the opportunity to defend the Cosmos from the Void, which was their goal all along (a noble one).
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