Mana issue

TLDR evoker spells uses 4$$ loads of mana other classes swimming in mana

its manageable in a key soooo bad in raid like wtf OOM and the other healers are 80-90% is wild guys. i know holy pally gets buffs and manna back for holy shock and free charges . dream breath should be free you are telling me that i dont need to have spirit bloom but pally talents all buff and refund mana for their main abilities i can sit and cast flash of light and regen faster than the cast and be back at 100% but i need to use a talent point in to a dps boost manly for just 9k, for a 3sec cast, 9k mana is not even enough to cast dream breath let alone the verdant embrace im suppose to cast before you know, to buff it ,like you designed it . :?

lets me break it down like this evoker cds -stasis cost 10k mana and i need to spend more mana to use its and its cooldown is 1.5min, rewind is a 3min cooldown that cost 13.7k mana and people must have gotten hurt or it heals for crap and if you are in a raid half the healing. dreambreath is 12,250k mana // Pallys cds- have avenging wrath and aura mastery cost 0mana and divine toll cost 7.5kmana no nerfs no limitations only buff to skills .

then ontop of it all preservation gets gutted its spirtbloom is gone and emerald blossom no longer evenly distribute health evenly then emerald blossom it cost 8.8kmana and can be poorly utilized due to mechanics or out of place people for whatever reason

we are nerfed with limited range for our crono/living flame of 30yards and 5.5k mana to cast like why ??? cant be with range stack gotta move up to heal the tank on the other side of house size boss then run out to then dream breath for 12.2k mana the range and mealy and tank because dreambreath is 40 yards temporal anomaly 11.1k mana <thats the 30% reduced cost btw>only hits 5 targets 20 man raid hahah 5 targets

imagine this people 30% health on a prog boss at 10% and for the sake of argument all the healers are at the same mana 10%lvl <which is 26.6k mana for me rn> we need health a pally cast a CD and healz flow their mana stays at 26.6kmana evoker cast a cd no healz flow unless i spend 16.5k,27k or 36kmana to spend with stasis or with the alternate dreamflight is 10k mana and you are at 5%mana hope it last because 1 dream breath 12.2k mana 22.2k mana gone with 2 spells hope 1 echo is 3.3k evoker is out of mana pally

Big wall of text, simple solution, take the talent where disintegrate recovers mana, cast disintegrate between big healing phases and you’ll never run out.

Evoker is one of the best healers for mana by a pretty large margin unless your group sucks really bad and takes unnecessary damage giving you 0 opportunity to cast a disintegrate here and there.

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I haven’t had mana issues in raid as of yet, and I don’t have Energy Loop in my raid build. Lowest I’ve seen my mana bar go is ~20% on a 10 minute H Chimaerus kill.

I dunno what your general approach to healing is, but I would say only cast Emerald Blossom when you have Essence Burst (which also makes it mana-free in addition to essence-free), and if there’s some dead air where you don’t have anything to heal, casting LF offensively is slightly mana-positive. LF refunds part of its mana cost if it’s cast on an enemy (it’s specifically for Dev/Aug, they can never go OoM while chain casting LF, but can run OoM if they try to spot heal), so while it’s not as mana-positive as just standing around, it does let you feel more productive while you regenerate.

Also, try to consume Echoes with Merithra’s Blessing. It’s basically instant Spiritbloom, heals for a ton and procs a ton of Essence Bursts, which is more mana-free healing. I really try to avoid consuming Echoes with anything but MB.

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You are literally green parsing with only 4 bosses killed on heroic and 0 mythic kills. Do not comment on this forum ever again. Your opinion does not matter because it is inherently wrong and always will be until you actually learn the class you’re playing.

All the replies you’ve been making across multiple evoker threads you need to take a break from WoW and get outside. You’re being antagonistic and rude to pretty much everyone with elitist unsubstantiated claims. If you hate the Evoker class so much go play a different class.