Man I miss this version of Blizzard:

I see, I know ppl were fond of that but they are going to be careful about systems like that going forward. Otherwise that expac was rubbish.

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Even without easy gold + token, the leveling was fine and that blackrock raid was solid I guess.

Rest of the expac was meh, except for mythic dg and pvp gearing.

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There are countless places they could take the faction conflict but that would require them to go somewhere. And since that would require one or both of the factions to lose, and they’re hell-bent on not doing that, the end result is that faction conflict stories always peter out halfway through.

For all the strife and drama in BfA, all that actually happened was:

  • The Zandalari got rid of their loser king and got a new one
  • The Horde got rid of their loser warchief and didn’t get a new one
  • Teldrassil was destroyed
  • Undercity was destroyed-ish

And in the two expansions since, they’ve steadfastly ignored all of those developments except for flatly undoing Teldrassil by giving the elves a new tree with blackjack, and hookers.

It’s clear that they don’t actually want to move the faction plot forward - and I can’t really blame them, because it would require a huge shakeup in how the game works, that probably wouldn’t be justified by the appeal of the story - but if they’re not going to follow through, they should stop trying.

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I think the movie was fine. What they should have done was use the movie to kickstart the tv series.
It left off on a great cliffhanger.

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Wrath of the Lich King actually bucks this point. You had both factions at odds up and into ICC which ended on a rather plausible note.

Perspectives are the best tool for this.

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Yeah, I paid for like a year and a half of my subscription based on my income from Salvage crates and such.

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Saurfang… :joy:

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the cinematic wasnt

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Oh please. Like the alliance aren’t guilty of this same exact thing, lol.

Hey, look. If you want the same old predictable ‘You stole my doll!’ storylines between Horde and Alliance, more power to you, I guess. I’m personally glad we’re seeing a change. It was getting old and stale.

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But the faction conflict was never a major plot thread in Wrath. Aside from the faction leaders bickering during Trial of the Crusader and then the Gunship Battle, it was barely present. It certainly wasn’t a headline feature the way it was in Mists or BfA.

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The Wrath Gate…?

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LOL They don’t have it the ones that did have it left the company! You can find them at Dreamhaven cooking up something epic that will be a smash hit!

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Oh yea, can’t wait for wanna-be Valve to start cranking out that game that will never come.

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Asthmatic voice, likes choking people with his magic, army of beings that look alike.

Yeah basically

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Better waiting on that than being a boot licker here. Blizz needs to learn why the way things used to be were great and why things now are not near as fun. They still make some things fun and get some things right, but they are not even in the same league as the former devs! Now get back to that boot licking and brown nosing!

A demon attacking both factions isn’t faction conflict. Both the Horde and Alliance were fighting Varimathras.

Unless you’re referring to the whining fit between Varian and Garrosh over whose fault it is, but whatever. Bickering over blame is just the default state of politicians, it’s not a conflict.

Hey, Valve can make games! They just can’t count to three…

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The WoW cinematics or just Blizzard cinematics in general haven’t gone anywhere. So I have no idea what “version” of Blizzard you miss. When their cinematics were great but not as good as they are today?

I guess you actually are…

You do realize that the TWW cinematic is the best one that they have done to date, in terms of quality. There’s no “heavy action scene” in it sure … but it is WoW.
Do you seriously think that we aren’t fighting stuff or that there’s not going to be any cinematics/cutscenes that hit damn hard that has both action and emotion…?


This is honestly one of the weirdest takes regarding the cinematics team I have ever heard. Please, do inform me if I got it wrong what you meant.

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Mak gora is where BFA went off the rails so they could set up Shadowlands. Was this really the capstone you wanted to the faction war that put the war in WARcraft? Because it is. The other 2 are good though.

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and from what I recall, the expected sequel was likely Thrall’s story (I.E. Lord of the Clans/WCIII)

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The WoW forums have an incredibly short attention span, if it’s not in the latest patch/cinematic/leak then it’s obviously never going to be in WoW ever again. :roll_eyes:

So, this is a pretty typical take for us.

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