Man, getting junk delve trinkets as your top items in the vault sucks

Because that’s the ratio of that item type to the other? The full pool is meaningless.

If I have 12 blue coins and 6 red coins in a bag. It doesn’t matter how many green coins I add to that bag, the ratio of blue coins to red coins in the bag (And therefore the relative odds of pulling one out) does not change.

But comparing the ratio from Trinkets to one other category is meaningless because as I said the vault doesn’t discriminate. Comparing the individual odds against each other is purely pointless.

You can have 12 blue and 6 red, but you can have 20 other colors. The odds of you getting a Red depends on the full options. Not just the blue.

How is it? Disproportionate odds of receiving one item slot over any given other is the entire point of the topic.

There are too many trinkets in the delve loot pool.

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It is disproportional. I’m not arguing against that. It’s clearly stacked towards trinkets. My argument is how are we deriving odds without looking at the loot pool and cherry picking certain slots to compare. Comparing 1 probability against another is meaningless simply because that’s not how the vault functions. You need to compare the 1 you need against the entire pool.

I’ve been using 2 delves trinks since they pretty good

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Because we’re not trying to model how the vault functions. We’re just proving the ratios are disproportionate.

If we were trying to say the exact odds of a given slot appearing in the vault I’d agree with you, but we’re not.

Idk, we are just not going to understand each other on this one. I don’t see how claiming something is 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 is not stating an exact odd. Or that you don’t need the entire loot pool.

It’s simple logic that trinkets are stacked and disproportionate and we both agree on this point. You need less proof to make that claim. You need more proof to claim a specific ratio, and that’s where I don’t see how you are getting the number while ignoring the pool.

Last week I took tokens. 3rd week already taking tokens.

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I get rings. In veteran track without fail.

Unless this was recently changed, the on use is a single target effect.

Because I don’t care about the ratio of trinkets to total items. I care about the ratio of trinkets to a given item type.

Could you list those?

Yes, I understand that’s what you care about but it’s meaningless to compare two slots when the vault picks 1 out of all of the available items. It’s essentially, in practice, Red coins (trinkets) vs Blue coins (everything else). Or replace (Trinkets) with the slot you want.

That would be preferable lol, I didn’t know we had that many during a season.

Get another Rotfang in vault? :laughing:

This is true. But it doesn’t make comparing to given items irrelevant, nor does it make not counting the entire pool disingenuous.

My Candle Confidant is kicking some butt all by its little candle self! Literally watched it tank an add once. :rofl:

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My melee confidant does MISS on all his attacks, on all classes.
The caster one hits for 300k each “fireball”.

Idk why the melee misses though, but for now, I gotta keep it in the bags.

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Probably need to make a ticket, sounds like a bug.

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They need to delete the amorphous relic. Or let us blacklist it. So tired of seeing that from delve maps and in the vault.

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