Because it was a emotional short sighted reaction without anything else. She even denied help from Andiun to regain her claim. Blizzards writing is really lacking.
Oh and of course to expose her to Sylvanas leading to hear death.
So, a stupid forced moment to give us light zombie queen.
I agree completely. On that note, I donât think it made sense to make Calia a Lightforged undead. Weâve seen people be resurrected with the Light before, and they came back as living people, and thereâs no reason itâs different for Forsaken using the Light (since Faolâs got a strong connection to it still).
The one interesting note is if they made Callia Queen, what happens in faction conflict content? People who think she might bring the Forsaken to the Alliance are dreaming.
The Horde will be cast as bad guys. That is what Blizzard always does. One might see her take a Baine type role, or just not deal with it (we saw almost nothing about what Lorethemar thought of the war). Otherwise, she will have to take a clear break with her friends in the Alliance.
Why? The âonce you become undead you are Red Team forevermore regardless of who you are and your character historyâ is one of the dumbest plagues on the WoW narrative there is.
The only purpose it serves is as a one-direction conveyer belt wherein characters that the Alliance likes and wants to keep are delivered to the Horde who doesnât want them and wishes they would go away.
Itâs like itâs precision designed to leave nobody happy.
If you become leader of the undead, that is true. Blizzard will have the undead PCs and NPCs be team red, there is no chance of anything else. The does kinda mean the leader has to be team red.
I think he faction conflict is rigid and boring and should be abolished or modified. I also think it is totally clear that Blizzard will never do it.
If Calia doesnât become Queen? Anything could happen.
Thatâs because Valeera is a Blood Elf, not a High Elf. She identifies as Sinâdorei culturally.
My opinion on Calia leading the Forsaken is summed up by Terenasâ memorial: âMay the Father lie blameless for the deeds of the son. May the bloodied crown stay lost and forgotten.â Much like how Anasterian is the last true king of QuelâThalas, Terenas should remain the last true king of Lordaeron. I think itâs fine if Calia wishes to reconnect with the people of Lordaeron, living or undead, and fine if she wants to help them, but Iâd rather see the Forsaken move beyond having a monarchy since itâs now failed them twice (thanks, Sylvanas). If nothing else, thereâs some good potential for friction (not necessarily open conflict) between the Forsaken and the living human kingdoms based on the differences between their forms of government, rather than whoâs living and whoâs undead.
Calia as Queen of the Forsaken.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633333989427380237/896121560136556624/nope.gif
Unfortunately as long as the Alliance is lead by King Jesus and his supporters, the only kind of friction Blizzard can/will write is one of violently irrationally rejecting his perfect wisdom.
Hey, I can dream. I just think that thereâs some good inherent potential for strife between Stormwind, which still has a monarchy and House of Nobles with political power, and the Forsaken, who used to have a monarchy and ruling class of nobles until certain members of the ruling class betrayed their people to the Scourge, eventually resulting in a violent rebellion against the Scourge-loyal remnants of that ruling class and a society that no longer strictly abides by the old class structures. Iâm not even talking about open warfare or violent conflict between the two societies, just potential for intrigue and political maneuvering, but then again I also think that Stormwind in general is just loaded with potential for internal political drama.
The Forsaken have actively helped the Scourge more than hindered it over their history.
Shame they didnât make her an actual Forsaken character and maybe a part of the leadership of the Cult of the Forgotten Shadow. Preaching the word of free will and self empowerment through the power of shadow would have been nice.
Not more than Arthas freakinâ Menethil, they havenât. Iâm referring to when the Lich King first lost his grip on those who eventually became the Forsaken; as soon as they realized that they had control of their own bodies again, they turned on Arthas and forced him out of the ruins of the capital, regardless of how much he insisted that he was their rightful sovereign. There were also several Lordaeron nobles in the Cult of the Damned leading up to the kingdomâs fall, people like Baron Rivendare who were willing to assist in orchestrating the downfall and slaughter of their fellow countrymen in exchange for power. Any such nobles who remained loyal to the Scourge after the Forsaken broke away were considered enemies of the Forsaken, and did not retain any respect among the Forsaken that they might have had in life based on their titles.
I donât see why Calia has to be decayed and gory to be considered Forsaken.
Thereâs plenty of âLady in Whiteâ Horror motifs that Calia does align with, but even that aside, why must Forsaken be nothing BUT a horror fantasy? Can it be more?
That said, I can see Calia developing in other ways.
Such as, in the Light vs Void expansion, itâs revealed that the Light intended to use Calia for their goals but she rejects them and as a result, her Light-washing gets taken from her.
Another idea is that the Process that revived her is discovered to be temporary and her Light begins to fade. As a bonus, she has to hide this fact, so she takes to wearing a hood to hide her eyes. She could even take to suffering withdrawal of the light, so she has to find another source, which turns out to be other Light users.
So she becomes a Light Vampyre.
Calia as Forsaken Queen will be amazing if they can make her a bit more nuanced, not just some lovely Light lady who likes to kiss Alliance. Honestly I always hoped she was a Forsaken somewhere off in the wilderness anyway - gives the predominantly Lordaeronian Forsaken some actual Lordaeronian representation rather than just an elf, a demon, and one hunter who likes to kiss elves as their racial leaders.
Calia proclaimed that the Forsaken are âthe true heirs of Lordaeronâ she has represented the Forsaken now on multiple occasions.
Sylvanas galvanized the Forsaken by pushing the fact that the Forsaken are primarily former living citizens of Lordaeron. It really didnât matter if it was propaganda or not the fact is its true propaganda.
Even Garrosh used the fact that the Forsaken are primarily Lordaronian as a crux during the invasion of Gilneas:
âThe Gilneans cower behind their high stone walls,â the warchief called out, his deep voice booming over the din of rain and thunder. "You, citizens of Lordaeron, you know their history. When their human allies needed them, what did they do? They walled up and hid. ".
Cdev has a track record for connecting the Forsaken with the Kingdom of Lordaeron and Caila is the nail in the coffin for any doubters. If anyone wants to feel like theyâre continuing the story of Lordaeron from a pc pov I suggest you roll Forsaken.
âŚthe same team that created the ânuanceâ of BFA?..
Calia is like, female, undead Anduin. Her crime is being incredibly boring. I think Anduin doesnât get the same amount of hate because he has been an established Alliance character for years. Calia is new, and she has the task of replacing one of WoWs most popular characters.
It doesnât help that Sylvanas has been handled so poorly, there is an understandable resistance to Calia. Long time Forsaken fans want Sylvanas. The -real- Sylvanas, not the Sylvanas we got in BFA and SL. Its the same issue night elves have, but in different form, it is Blizzard unraveling the cultural and racial identity of the Forsaken, and using Calia to implement their new vision of what they thing the Forsaken should be. It a lot of ways, it feels like a flag being planted on conquered territory.
Personally, I have no positive or negative feelings for Calia. Tbh, shes not even a character. There is nothing real about her. She has the personality of an old, dusty tissue. She hasnât done anything noteworthy or of relevance. She is just⌠there.
There is nothing for me to like or hate. But I understand why some people hate what she represents, and in that, I agree. Blizzard has lost all rights to Warcraft.
That was one of my favorite short stories and youâre right Calia has defended the rights of the Forsaken as being primarily her people and having the rights to Lordaeron first and foremost.
lol your insecurity is palpable. Nobody cares what some elf and some alien from across the sea think, and Calia doesnât get to pick and choose who her subjects are. In fact, when she said that line, she was still a human and was living in Stormwind so she was by definition excluding herself as an âheir of Lordaeronâ which by her own logic would make her opinion on the matter moot.
Not that it actually matters, because she wouldnât be the first Menethil to have an extremely warped view of what constitutes âher subjects.â
