Is the concept bad, most likely not. Is the current setup bad, oh heck yeah.
The biggest issue right now is that you have to spend 3 points spread all over the place to to make a version we can get now with one talent slot. This means that to really be worth it, the individual parts need to be stronger to offset the point cost to get them. Also, berserk has been pretty lame for a while now, it would also need to be worth getting a single point, not just a weak 3 minute cooldown.
As mentioned, their placement is…, well, pretty amateurish. The relentless style is set in front of MoC. Why do you have a combo point related version in front of an energy talent. It would make more sense for the reduced energy cost to be next to MoC. The fact a 3 minute cooldown is in front of a passive is another part of that. It would make sense to have a passive and then the long cooldown.
What I would do is swap relentless and MoC and then make relentless into Incarnation. More OoC and less cost makes sense if more energy is what someone is looking more.
I would then move any other berserk options to be cap with the ability under it determining what that flavor of berserk does. For example, put one under Circle of Life and Death and have it clone a bleed whenever one is applied. If it extends an existing bleed, the cloned bleed is extended as well. With thrash, primal wrath and alt-tabbing rake, you would have some decent aoe burst damage since it has the circle buffing their dps.
If you had those two combined, then you would be able to apply a lot of rakes and keep up thrash and primal wrath rips with easy. All on a three minute cooldown.
Is my example a great idea, probably not. But, it is just meant to show what I think should be done.
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i like the idea of “build your own berserk” just the potential options kind of stink. they need to be more powerful
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All the berserk benefits should be in 1 talent ffs and it’s still the worst 3min CD in the game. If not the worst CD in the game.
All the zerk CD enhancing talents should be replaced with certain weakened torghast powers. Like rake on 3 targets increases damage etc
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Berserk on 3m cooldown is a big issue when fast paced M+ is popular and many powerful 2m cooldowns already exist. Also, why does Berserk need to last 20 seconds if Im just going to get energy starved after 4 seconds? A 10 second berserk on 2m cooldown would be perfect.
My worries about the current build-a-berserk is that it doesn’t fix any of these problems.
A random vanish during berserk is kinda stupid and would pack too much random stuff into 1 button. Berserking to vanish instead of dps might feel bad too. Feral druids really need a vanish outside of Shadowmeld but wadding it into their major dps cooldown is silly.
It could be cool, but the current state is bad.
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I like the concept, same with crusade/aw and paladins in df.
I’d rather see altered forms (maybe the return of saberon) as talents instead for feral. I like the sustained dot niche, give them necrotic wound in pvp and you can actually make feral something different strategically than lolconvoke & berserk. Maybe thats why malfurion is headed to the shadowlands, to learn while yall still are ravenous from touching a venthyr.
Before the new tier sets i would only use berserk to shift out of slows in pvp without getting the cooldown on cat form (leave cat form > use berserk to go back to cat form without spending a GCD), because thats how useful it was lmao.
Berserk feels really weird right now without the 50% energy cost reduction, we get alot of crits with shreds during berserk, we get alot of combo points, we refund combo points with spenders, yet we are energy starved all the time because ferocious bite still has that weird mechanic that energy buffs the damage by up to 100%.
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Honestly, whoever came up with this tree has never played Feral for more than a few minutes on a test realm.
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Well that person isn’t working on the tree anymore so there’s hope it can get better. If they change anything until pre-patch that is.
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I’d be okay with it reverting back to when berserk removed the cooldown on thrash and mangle, so you could choose to spam either.