Make weapon swapping viable again

to swap 2 weapons… its 2 globals.

make it back to 1 global.

and crafted weapons that have embelisshments will not re-swap back in. this is redic.

just want my quality of rogue life back.

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What do you mean “quality of life?”

You already have a ridiculously strong toolkit.

rogue is suposed to be a very adaptable class. it was taken away years ago.

just want to adapt to situations again… but with the issues with weapon swapping, it becomes a burden instead of a benefit…

this “change” was done because other classes were abusing a cheat weapon swap and they didnt know how to resolve the issue rather than ruin it for everyone.

rogues with overly strong toolkits (heavy dps builds) do not need to utilize weapon swap because it would actually hinder them.

rogues with weak toolkits (less damage / more utility), rely on weapon swap. there is a balance to this. it is not unfair.

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Maybe make it a talent node or PvP talent.

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Meanwhile im here wondering wth a weapon swap is.

Weapon swapping was the Rogues answer back in the day to creatively overcome any obstacles or nerfs put in place by the devs.

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We are Rogues we find a way and overcome any nerfs or neglect by the devs.

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It’s a technique where you would apply different poisons to different weapons. Then swap them during your rotation depending on the immediate situation.

This was back before poisons were classified as lethal or non-lethal.

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For PVE being able to weapon swap to a utility poison increased your value to the group. For PVP being able to swap between mind numbing and crippling allowed for diverse strategies.

In most cases weapon swapping was primarily for utility but there were situations for increasing DPS.

BlizZard the no fun police did not like Rogues circumventing their neglect toward Rogues so they tried for years to stop or slow down weapon swapping in various ways.

But Rogues always prevailed even with BlizZard neglect.

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this is one of them… yes. swap to melee counter poisons to engage spell casters with mind numbing… etc etc.

but there is much more to it than just poisons. most havent went down that path.

agreed. it should be added to subterfuge…or into the “2 percent leech” talent that NO ONE uses.

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yeah i created this technique loooong ago and everyone thought i was nuts for carrying 8 different weapons.

so yeah now i just carry 8 different weapons with all different enchants. same @#$@#$ different story. lol

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Yeah making it a talent would be interesting but Assassination has Dragon-Tempered Blades which is pretty close.

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i dont think assassination should get the ability to be honest… or death stalker sub.

it should primarily be for “trickster” rogues because of the lack of single target dps.

sooo yeah i guess thats the route to be taken. add it to the trickster talent schematic.

the way weapon swap works now… you can swap easily to a second set.

however, getting back to your normal set if you have a crafted embellishment on your weapon is not easy. you have to swap in your regular dagger… then you can swap in your embellished weapon again. so in order to do this, you have to go thru 4 globals and 4 macros.

last season i had 2 macros to do this and they didnt like it… so they made those macros not work because i found a work around to the nonsense.

weapon swaps work fantastic when out of combat. however, getting stuck in combat with the wrong set of weapons is horrible.

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weapon swap however now finally works again in arena. so progress is being made to reclaim the true power of rogue

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