its an annoying, gcd ability that’s just there as another button to press in order to reach rogue’s viable dps. it also increases rogue’s ramp-up time. a rogue’s rotation already has a lot of buttons to press, especially assassination
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Without SnD, Rogue is brainless. It’s easy even with SnD. Just practice and learn how to work the ability into your rotation. Leave SnD as is.
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I’m not quite sure what you mean. Can you explain how removing SnD would make Rogue brainless? I’m assuming you mean without SnD Rogues could play on auto-pilot? If so, I disagree with that statement. Can you clarify why you think it would? I don’t have an issue with it in or out, but I’m curious as to your reasoning.
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SnD is fine as is.
They do not need to remove it.
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Proper SnD usage separates good and bad rogues. SnD also interacts well with all three specs.
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it would still interact with all specs well since it would still be there in some form but just as a passive
if rogue would be brainless without snd then what are other classes right now? they must be more than brainless
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The gameplay of rogue would be brain dead boring if you made it a passive.
You will never have me agree to making it a passive.
This is a “git gud” moment.
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thats fine but i highly doubt a single skill that you press every 30 seconds is paramount to how fun rogue is.
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SnD is just plain boring, doesn’t add anything to Assassination, should be removed/made passive asap and bring some other ability for Sin.
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If you only press it once every thirty seconds you shouldn’t have needed to make a thread about it?
its a nuisance to maintain while youre doing everything else in your rotation. its also very easy to forget about. maybe if they made it off gcd that would be a good compromise
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Why do you never complain about rupture? SnD interacts more than rupture does 
I don’t really understand that. It’s just another thing to manage, right? I’m not saying managing SnD is difficult, (Especially w/ Grand Melee) but removing it won’t make it brain dead boring. I think most exciting part of outlaw is hitting your pistol shot proc, leading into a solid dispatch that nets you a nice RtB buff.
To me, SnD isn’t what makes rogues exciting, so IMO making it a passive wouldn’t make the class any less fun.
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Not at all.
All three specs flow pretty smoothly
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You do realize there are more specs than just outlaw right?
You’re entitled to your opinion but SnD is one of the main reasons I came back to main rogue.
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snd definitely does not flow well with any spec other than outlaw
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Then you’re not playing sub or sin properly.
Sub increases shadow technique procs
Sin increases energy regen and poison procs.
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? i mean flow well as in it is awkward to use in your rotation
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If you’re having issues with SnD in either sub or subs rotation you need to learn to pool energy instead of spamming abilities like a mad man.
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I do, but you’re still not explaining why the removal of SnD would make Rogues as a class boring. Outlaw clearly would still be fun. I haven’t seen anyone advocate that w/o SnD Sin and Sub would be unfun to play, other than you.
Your argument is (correct me if I misstate it), Sub and Sin need to manage SnD or it will be unfun/boring. I don’t understand that reasoning. It’s literally a button you hit every 30 seconds. How will the removal of hitting a button every 30 seconds make an entire class boring?
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