If you don’t want to up the damage; at least do this so that the skill is actually worth pressing sometimes.
Make it a combo point builder in AoE situations, instead of trying to pass it off as a damage dealer; which it very clearly isn’t.
It is a threat builder, and yeah it is spammable for quick combo points on par with Shiv, it doesn’t do everything for you, you still need to single target enemies but it helps keep threat secure. Pairs amazingly well with main gauche and ripostes.
If it was meant to be a threat builder, they should have added a thread modifier. At least when running JaFW.
I feel like my idea could make it a fun rune for both tank and dps rogue. I like the idea of single targeting an enemy in a mob, shuriken tossing, and getting 4 combo points to unleash on my target. It feels smooth and makes up for its dismal damage as a dps rogue.
It also helps us be more useful in melee cleaves without necessarily needing to give a bunch of AoE damage to a single target damage class.
Stop commenting on these tank threads if you have no idea what you’re talking about.
You are a green parsing DPS rogue giving some of the worst advice I have seen on this forum.
Main gauche is still not usable.
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Bit harsh.
Does anyone like the shuriken toss change idea?
it just needs to be able to proc poisons like fan of knives. If you could stack deadly’s on your targets with shuriken it would be effective for holding aoe threat
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This would be okay too even though I like my idea a bit better.
Now, if it did BOTH, it would turn this filler rune into a real contender lemme tell ya.
both would be too much. dps rogues would just be chaining shuriken into 5 point envenoms and go off the chart
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Odd that MG is so utterly useless and they just barely tweak it a little bit huh? Almost like it is working as intended and they just need to dust it off so the paint by numbers crowd can figure things out haha. I understand if you haven’t tried MG and Sinister Strike because some streamers said it didn’t work, but you really aught to consider what bliz intended when they designed it. Maybe people are too proud to admit they can’t figure things out on their own and are waiting for some puppets to fill them in. It can’t be MG and Sinister Strike! Runes are supposed to pew pew!
Also, put up that link to my parses lets all get a good long look at them.
It benefits from the Just a Flesh Wound threat modifier, but Like I said it is not enough to be a one button solution to threat, you still need white damage and ripostes among your aoe targets, I find blade flurry to be most useful for those situations with white cleave damage and riposte cleaves even though Shuriken toss doesn’t get the cleave effect,
Also adrenaline rush shuriken machine gun is hilarious but probably not the best use.
True. Your idea is probably better for overall balance.
As long as they do something because as it stands this rune is beyond lackluster.
you sound like you got 1 good parse 1 time and now ur a complete ahole.
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your just so up your own butt. You had two 99s and that landed allstars rank 30. grats you play a spec no one cares about.
Getting an ego over level 25 tank parses is cringe, even if you are correct about Main Gauche.
Is this you? https://sod.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/wild-growth/saeyon
whaaat? A link? that’s crazy, just out of curiosity I’m on lava lash and raid under Sorovil.
There’s nothing there?! Because my data is set to private?! So what have you been talking about? You can come visit me on lava lash and look at my swanky loot if you don’t believe I’ve been raiding and tanking.
Not everyone needs their pictures put on the fridge by mommy to feel good about themselves.
It’s not about ego. This guy has been spreading misinformation on every single tank thread. I simply said he is wrong and used the logs to back up my claim.
Find me one log in the top 10 that uses MG. Honestly I’d be surprised if you could find one that isn’t using mutilate
It’s not harsh he posts incorrect information in every Rogue tank post on the forums. Hard to determine incompetence vs malice on the internet, but it is one of the two.
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This is all I was trying to say. I need to restrict my own access to the forums after a couple beers because I definitely took it a little too far lol
Sorry for dragging you through the mud Sorovil. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt but you’re still wrong
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Except its not about misinformation, your parses are about dps, not about damage mitigation, threat management or how things are going for the healer, it reads as straight dps = threat, not energy to threat ratios or any real information, the parses are all brute force and don’t show the metrics that a tank would go by.
That’s what lead to everyone using saber slash in phase 1 cause the lol dps when sinister strike holds better threat, this also leads to a feedback loop of 'I don’t see MG on teh parses so MG Must be bad" so no one uses it, hence the recent buffs of bliz whapping people over the head with it saying use MG.
When I tank, the heals get to dps and they don’t pull aggro. Honestly, try it out before you bad mouth it.
Edit to clarify I suggest using MG and SS+Riposte with a full combat build including blade flurry and sword specialization, Riposte triggers off of parries (MG+Blade dance) and does damage based on your weapon so a big slow sword benefits from it the most. Extra swings, big cleave, ripostes, sinister strike for combo points, blade flurry + shuriken toss for aoe.
It comes off that way when you immediately go “check my logs bro” to try and make your point. And it’s especially silly considering we’re talking about tank dps parses, when the primary goals of tanking are not to do as much dps as possible, but to hold threat and mitigate incoming damage. In fact, having high parses as a tank often means intentionally making yourself worse at actually tanking. And on top of that, even for dps, parsing high does not mean you are doing everything correctly or know everything, especially in this version of WoW where things are changing very frequently. It’s moot now since the posts are deleted, I suppose.