Hey guys, common sense here. If any Blizzard employee out there actually plays the game (it really feels like you dont), you would know that the gear disparity between a boosted player and a naxx gear’d player is massive - probably 10x the power at least. Now that’s cool and all, but a of guilds are making what we call ‘premades’, consisting of a very geared, [i]group[/i] of players. These groups are very powerful as they are, but they are usually perspiring heavily, they will use world buffs and consume heavily to dominate even furthur. Cool right!? Sure…. super cool!
The trouble is that it really turns off returning or new players from playing because they are getting stomped.
Really, really, really simple solution. Can we get the premades to fight each other? And solo queue vs solo queue. Is there anybody out there? Do you guys play the game….. why am i coming up with simple solutions, why cant you guys? Serious q
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the only people against this are the premades that are running through pubs
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The people that can only queue while in a premade stop queueing as they don’t want to vs premades
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Yeah it’s terrible and it’s always been like this. Only way to enjoy BG’s or get daily done if you don’t want to be that guy looking for a premade is to play the off hours. Joining a premade and stomping isn’t fun and having your team stomped by a premade isn’t either. It’s unfortunate
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Premades do queue into other premades 50% of the time.
Collect your mark for the quick L and move on. Unfortunately the prepatch and the first couple weeks of the phase are for honor/mark farmers.
Once everyone has their honor and marks, the rest of the phase fun can be had just playing bgs for bg enjoyers.
thats cool, lets make it 100%!
There is currently 138 AB’s in progress, thats 4140 players enjoying AB! If we tweaked that number from 50% to 100%, the queue times will not change! amazing stuff
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or be social and join a premade
If my grandmother had wheels, she would have been a bike.
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The premade epidemic completely ruins the fun of BG’s. Unlike most people I prefer BG’s over Arena for my PvP because I’m not some neckbeard tryhard that has to be constantly sweating every time he plays a game. I’ll play my minimum required amount of arena games and achieve the ratings I need for the gear, but after that I’m going to BG’s for my PvP. Am I capable of going tryhard sweatlord mode in Arenas? Yeah. Do I have fun doing it? No. My first taste of MMO PvP was in OG vanilla WoW and I instantly fell in love with it. It’s been the primary reason why I’ve subbed over the years to play this game. I don’t care about raids. I’ll do them to get a weapon but that’s about it. Making gold and BG’s is where I live, and I love it there.
Premades ruin that though. Premades are a perfect example of what is wrong with this community these days in my opinion. People have managed to optimize the fun out of this game SO much it spills over and ruins the fun of people around them. People don’t know anymore how fun a BG feels when it’s an even fight against people who were good, but never felt unbeatable. 15-30 minute games could still be enjoyable if they were close races the whole way through. Wins felt better. Losses even felt better.
Being held hostage in a WSG for upwards of an hour because they decided to go 2/3 caps in their pre-made of stacked gigajuicers hand-crafted to have as close a chance to a 0% risk of losing as possible and they are all now just graveyard camping your entire team is not fun. At all. And the whole “Don’t res they’ll get bored eventually” only works if the people on the other team values their time, which most pre-mades made the decision to ruin as many peoples day as possible, and they’ve dedicated THEIR entire day to it.
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While this can happen, it’s a small fraction of premades. 9 out of 10 are there for quick marks of honor. Games are over in 5-10 mins.
We must have different MMR brackets then because most WSG premades hold the game hostage for like 20-30 minutes until some rogue decides to sneak into their base to catch them slippin’. Then when the risk of losing jumps up to like 1% they decide it’s time to end. Same with AB to an extent too. They cap 4 out of 5 and leave 1 to drag the game on as long as possible while keeping people isolated to one specific graveyard.
I report these people.
Not sure what u guys mean about the holding the flag hostage, i havent seen that personally.
i have seen a lot of 15 man premades in AB though. Yeah just confused as there are numerous threads about this issue, and Blizz dont seem to care or even ackowledge it
They’ve acknowledged it before. It killed premades entirely. Turns out premades didn’t wanna face other premades either 
If you’re paying attention to what’s actually going on and what this company is currenty about…
Trade chat on both sides of the factions are blowing up all day with LF premade group this and that…
It’s not just the typical premaders grouping up…
It’s nearly the entire target audience playing the game…
Company isn’t going to do anything about premades while this target audience is prevalent.