make rapture apply a shield and atonement to 5 allies near you. Rapture is such a bad cooldown compared to all other healers.
It’s one of those cooldowns that’s amazing in Mythic+, but scales poorly in a raid and is basically used only to ramp rather than heal any meaningful damage.
Combine that with 1 Rapture Ramp basically costs you 1/3rd your mana bar and it also feels bad to use.
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I used to feel this way as well, but other healers cooldowns scale far better into high M+ than Rapture seems to. Rapture is five globals to absorb part of a mechanic rather than how other healers tend to use one global to do the same thing, and that doesn’t really feel necessary given discipline’s already busy healing process. Rapture doesn’t even shield for very much damage without Aegis of Wrath, which is certainly a deliberate choice, but that also puts discipline in a weird place where we need to choose between having a powerful 90 second cooldown and having the ability to heal almost as well as the other healers.
Discipline feels better in M+ now than it ever has, but I wonder if maybe they could make a modifier for Rapture that makes it a single global to shield 5 players but then not apply atonement to them? Essentially make it useless for raid, but free up discipline’s M+ healing a little bit to have less claustrophobic preparation for incoming damage?
I think the best change would be: Rapture shields and applies attonment to 5 people around you and your next 2-3 casts of shield will incur no cooldown and shield for extra 30-40% (lasts 30 seconds). Perfect cooldown!
Then the talents for it would be: 1) attonments applied by rapture last 3-4 seconds longer/ the cast of your next 5-6 shields will incur no cooldown.
Rapture’s great in M+ so long as you have your mastery bonus on it. That’s (generally) the problem. You basically have to radiance or put out individual atonements before you rapture, and it’s a lot of mana. It also helps actually taking AoW which is a pretty unpopular talent rn.
But I mean I can heal through the first storm shield of Hyrja with pretty much only rapture/lust in a +20, and I can’t do that with most healer CDs.
Hmm yeah Rapture is in an odd state in M+ I’d say… The spell didn’t get weaker from what we had prior to the 10.0.5 changes but the rest of our kit got so much better it does feel much more niche.
Historically it has been one of the key components / cooldowns for us in a dungeon environment and it’s such a flexible spell… Worked as a heal on the move CD and/or as preventive healing, you could use it all on the Tank if it was getting trucked, or spread it among the party…
It still has all of those things it’s just not as storng I think or maybe it’s just that now our kit is so much better now which has make it more niche… I mostly use it now in more specific situations (for either pre-entive healing or for heal on the move) and still works there but it no longer something I use every other pull.
I can see a couple of ways that could help making it feel strong again:
(Taking inspiration from Cap’s comment above) They could make it so it to cause your PW:Shield to automatically benefit from mastery regardless of the target having atonement or not. (The idea here is that it saves you the need to spread atonements before hand just to make it feel strong).
Or maybe they could add a way to make it just stronger but with an increased CD or even shorter duration… Like maybe Reworking exaltation could work? instead of increasing Rapture’s duration by 5s it could make the shields 25% stronger but reduce the Rapture’s duration to 6s (which is 25% shorter).
Completely agree on all of this, but that’s kind of the issue: Rapture is good IF you have high mastery and IF your target already has Atonement on them and IF you take Aegis of Wrath. If those aren’t all true it’s still worth using and it’s something, but it’s not good so much as it’s going to give you a little cushion before the big damage comes in.
I don’t think that any of that is problematic on its own, but other cooldowns don’t have so many conditions on whether they’re good on top of requiring 5 globals.
I’ve been running exaltation rapture AoW and it’s felt pretty good actually. Rapture’s an incredibly flexible CD too in that you can use it outside AoE scenarios. Just plopping 100k shields on the tank repeatedly in high pressure scenarios (like the final pull of ToJS) is super nice.
Definitely a playstyle shift, though. I kinda like that we have the option of skipping rapture in M+, so I don’t really mind its current power level.
I want the first PWS from casting rapture to be 200% increased again.
It doesn’t really feel like an actual cool down that does much. Really more for doing a little pre bubble before a hit or for just mobility healing if you can’t stand still.
I miss being able to do an emergency mega bubble on someone.
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As of the buffs today, I think Rapture’s in a fine spot for M+, especially if you build towards AoW. I healed through the Nokhud 2nd boss Storm with rapture alone on +20 tyrranical, and it never broke through the shields (and I ran a crystalline reflection build and that did my top damage in that fight). IMO that’s a pretty strong place to be. Obviously I had some +healing there, but other healers generally don’t get through that with just a single CD button aside maybe Evoker and monk Chi Ji + Sheilun if you count that.
I’ll play with it a bit more, but my impression of what I did today was that building toward PW:S actually feels kinda good again, and I think could probably compete with the heavier shadow side builds (ignoring the IE damage loss since people in VERY high key stopped running IE).
Agreed. A 25% buff to PWS is a 25% buff to Rapture. I would still appreciate a modifier to apply Rapture to 5 with a single global but without applying Atonement just because of how many keys you need to hit while playing discipline, but there’s no doubt that it’s definitely a good ability after the buff.
Evokers can have temporal anomaly spread shields and echos to multiple people with 1 button press, on a super short CD, and they can move while casting it if they have a hover charge. Comparatively, using rapture is just such a slog.
It’s hard for me to want to go back to disc after being so spoiled by evoker’s kit. (Although, the new disc tier set is looking very tempting.)