What about the precedent the current dungeon experience sets for new players? Or players that have never tanked/healed but want to learn? They actually can’t, because you ahve to pull 900% of the dungeon up to and including the first boss or you get kicked, or everyone leaves/pulls everything anyways and then cries and kicks you for “fail tank”. You don’t get to ignore the garbage precedent set right now, and only focus on one that’s not truly an issue. The amount of people queueing for random heroics right now if there is already a tank and healer is a minute MAYBE and you’re full and going again.
Ya, screw that person that has to backfill for you and miss out on loot from the boss you just klilled.
You’re daft. You found the guy that understands some random strangers time is worthless, and said stranger should have NO right to decide “This person should have an account wide permanent ban from ever being able to queue for any and all group content ever again.” because he only needs one thing and doesn’t want to waste his time by staying when that one thing can’t be obtained.
While I agree it’s a jerk move, 30 minutes is enough. Any content that gives a deserter debuff is not worth stressing over.
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30 minutes of someones life isn’t a penalty? Not everyone has 100 alts they skip between. What do you consider a good penalty an hour? a day? their account forever? Where do you draw the line on what someones life is worth in time? Just glad it is blizzard who decides this stuff and not some angry person they never listen to on their forms lol
I’ve had plenty of runs where the tank doesn’t rage pull everything and no one cared. Oh no, the dungeon takes an extra 2 minutes. The horror.
Haven’t left a single heroic.
Found the guy that can’t read as you missed that and the statement where I said to put all rewards at the end.
If you read next time you won’t look so foolish.
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Account wide lockouts, and repeated leaving locks you out for 24 hours.
And they say Classic Andy’s are toxic. Retail players can’t even do dungeons without pooping on each other.
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Most of us haven’t. We just know that in a week these people are going to be crying about their debuffs while also crying for queue-able 0s and to add debuffs to that as well. 
Technically I lie though. The last Dawnbreaker random I got I just left as soon as it loaded and farmed crests in the world instead.
The school comment I made was a bit out of line, I admit, but that’s about it.
Beyond that I’m not being a selfish jerk, and I’m not namecalling, so I’m pretty sure I’m fine 
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I 100%. I have the popcorn ready.
Between that and people complaining heroics are overtuned is going to be a show.
I’m not looking forward to farming that place.
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I don’t like that at all, I agree it sucks, but hopefully follower dungeons are a good way for new players to get their feet wet (or avoid player dungeons entirely if they choose).
I will say that out of… a lot of runs so far, there’ve been some new tanks for sure and we’ve never kicked or pulled for them, ymmv.
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deserter being account wide and goes up by a large amount if happens too often
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Heroics are not that serious.
This problem ends Tuesday anyways.
WoW players need to work together to bring community standards baçk. That means combating toxic main character syndrome.
From everything I’ve read, because I’ve only got 3 active brain cells, and can’t figure out where to DO Follower Dungeons, you can’t use them to learn to heal. Damage is so small healing is apparently not necessary.
this is true but people leave a lot in normal lfg dungeons a lot while leveling. came across a bunch of twinks yesterday and had to carefully complete the dungeon without a tank after they left.
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You’re literally the person you’re trying to soap box virtue signal against. You weren’t getting the glazing responses you thought? You brought a buddy. You were getting clowned? You decided you’d gaslight and make it seem like everyone else is the badguys for being reasonable. Go buy more axe bodyspray.
Again not that serious. The Que system literally replaces them.
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