Make hammstring auto-apply like other classes do OR buff hammstring from 50% to 70% slow

How old is your yeast? Yeast can die.

never forget it matters not whence the blood flows

it still takes dude its not that old

Plz - show mercy

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1- my main point of convergence with you is that you objectively said “balance has no impact” which is a objectively lie, delusional take

2- you simply randomly changed the take to"Skill matters more than game balance"
point that I barely elaborated on, because you couldn’t sustain your first delusional take

If your point is skill vs balance, this is also about semantics, in the subjective aspect of what “matter” means.
If you consider it from the short-term point of view of a single player who specializes in the system’s flaws, yes, skill matters more than balance, players can abuse the lack of balance by making a class discrepancy (which exists and happens)

From a long-term point of view, for the game itself and not for a few players, balance matters more than skill. To prevent the game from dying with fewer and fewer players as time passes (exactly what is currently happening)

You’re again misquoting and only taking parts, man. Balance does not significantly impact almost any player at this point in time. Yes, there are situations where outliers occur (i.e. 10.0.7 ret paladin, for example, where they had 95% ladder team representation and a 91% winrate into non ret paladins). However,
No player is stuck at their rating due to balance decisions. You are taking an extremely literal approach to what was said in a pragmatic manner.

If someone says “the planet is dying” and you spent 100+ posts trying to say that they’re “objectively false because life exists” and then another 100 posts saying how nothing is your fault and that it’s the fault of things out of your control, then you are wrong to do so.

You were wrong when you did it last week. You were wrong yesterday. Youre wrong for doing it now.

I never, at any point, changed the take. That was always the claim that myself and so many others made across dozens of posts in several threads. YOU were the person who misunderstood semantics and latched onto the literal interpretation and I’m still not convinced you’ve read anyone’s posts in their entirety. If you had, you would recognize that everyone has been saying that skill matters more than balance except for you. This is why everyone is disagreeing with you.

This is also wrong, man. You’re implying that skill is an expression of taking advantage of balance issues. While not incorrect, you are also not correct with this.
Enh shaman is pretty mediocre and honestly dk isnt great after the nerfs either, but saul and petkick are consistently top of the ladder with different teams and comps. They are not being significantly impacted by balance because of their skill expression.

In your OWN video example, you flat out said that rdruid and rogue were supposed to win because of relative balancing strength, but YOU won the game. Skill >>> balance in your own example, dude.

I hear the argument here about fotm x and hating class Y and those are all fair arguments. I think there are definitely some outliers atm in outlaw/dh/warlock, but even in those cases, we see some significant variance in all tournament and ladder comps at all ratings of play. No single spec doesnt have at least 1 if not more S tier comps available to them. Sure, some have more which is a design/synergy component that is also influenced by tuning, but none of those things are stopping any player from climbing.

Not a single person at any rating is gatekept by their class or spec. No one. Every single person plays around the rating they’re supposed to be at (assuming a large enough sample size) based on their level of skill.

That is exactly the message that has been consistently conveyed, and you are the only person who has, not only not understood that, but actively denied that with outrageous claims and outlandish analogies.

Theres no misquoting, you just trying to avoid it to make it less ugly

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Balance ALWAYS has impact in ANY game, thats not about interpretation. You just don’t know the meaning of this word you are using.

Just thinking about it, thinking about putting this into question is already stupid.

There is no possibility of a match taking place without the balance values ​​being be taken into account.

You know very well (I hope) that just because someone gets something doesn’t mean it was a fair process. Stop making stupid arguments, it is intentional.

If your point is that the variety has improved I agree, but removing all the problems from the question (lock,dh,outlaw) and then saying that it has improved is something stupid.

You know this is not true.
the strongest feral and enhancement comps are A tier, they got destroyed easily on AWC.
Bicmex being the best survival hunter didn’t stand a chance.

There is, man. And you’re still doing it now.

What do you think is more likely, that every single person on the forums is wrong and that you are right, or that you’re wrong and still trying to fight that concept?

It is so important to you that you are right that you are partially quoting minute verbiage without reading the context in which they’re applied.

Not once have you ever replied to the entirety of one of my commentaries or rebuttals and consistently try to make counterclaims that arent realistic or accurate.

No, i understand the meaning of the word “impact” and yes, I recognize that by nature of playing a game that has rules and balance tuning that balance is impacting everyone who is playing it. This is not what I was refuting and you would know that if you took a step back and read things critically instead of emotionally.

Every single other person in this and any one of your other half-dozen threads understands this.

You are the ONLY person who has made claims like, “the variant cannot be in my gameplay” and “I’m not making mistakes” and “balance matters more than skill” and incorporated wildly incorrect analogies to try and justify your points.

It IS a fair process, though. Everyone has access to the same tools in this game. Every single person can get yhe same addons or weakauras. No one has any super keyboard or script (sans obvious theaters who get banned every season) that makes them a better player.

Everyone has access to the same tools in the game to be successful when compared to the rest of people who play their specs.

Is it relatively harder for certain classes in certain metas? Absolutely. Of those examples I just listed, I think outlaw rogue dumpsters both enh and dk. Despite that, however, there are multiple people being just as successful if not moreso than they usually are even if their class isn’t the favorite in the meta.

They’re not magic. They’re not one-in-a-million geniuses. All they do is try to learn.

This is something that you have consistently refused to do, as evidenced by the vod review.

I went through and did something most streamers charge $30-60 to do and gave genuinely helpful information for you to recognize because I don’t think that you’re seeing the game for what it is-I know you’re not or you wouldn’t play the way that you’re playing.

If your understanding of the game is lacking as well, how can you even try to say that balance matters more than skill when you aren’t even using your skills correctly?

The same can be said to you, dude. You’re consistently making intentionally obtuse arguments that are frankly delusional.

Yesterday you said that you couldnt swap to defensive stance or pillar against a rogue with a 50 yd range and 4 second head start when the guy didnt even have sprint.

You also tried to say you outplayed a go where the other team had you at 25k hp and the druid didnt press a single damage go in 8 seconds and tried to say that you “solo outplayed” when they just didn’t execute.

Your perceptions of what’s happening in the game aren’t accurate, and I think that you know that, so you’re continuously attacking the words that I use without adding context because it’s more important to you that you feel youre right then you actually ARE right or improving as a player.

And it shows.

You bookmark games you win vs streamers that are doing viewer 2’s carries…

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this is not true, even if it were, majority does not define truth
If out of 10 people, 9 people say that a square is round, 9 people will be wrong.

balance not impacting the game is false in all possibilities, you even admit that :point_down:

for some reason in your mind balance ceases to exist if its not matchs in the “highest level” :joy: :joy: :joy: hilarious

That’s not how any remotely lucid person defines “fair”.
I had a certain impression of you but the truth is that you are dumber than I imagined.
“People can choose, therefore is fair” :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy:

even if thats the case, it is easy to measure , X healer has more rating than Y healer, X healer is with nahj, Y healer is with me, even in this scenario i’ve won with a healer less efficient, nahj loses with a healer more efficient than mine

This is so cope man just stop

What does this even mean

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ur just jealous that ur not pinned on my refrigerator

It is true.

Sure, but that’s another misrepresentation you’re using again. If 99/100 people say the sky is blue and you’re saying it’s green, you’re still wrong even if you can find 9 people who agree with you and sample 10 total.

Again. I have said this numerous times. No one is saying that balance doesnt exist.

The entire argument is and has always been that skill matters more than balance and that you are not at your rating because of balance, but your level of skill.

Stop arguing semantics and just be real with yourself.

Youve already unintentionally admitted it with your own vod and comments following it, despite making doublethink claims to the contrary.

You are the only person who thinks they’re at their rating because of balance and not because of their skill level.

You can make IRL attacks all you want, dude, but this just further shows your lack of understanding.

Does saul’s shaman have some advantage that swole’s shaman doesn’t?

Does magnus’s warrior have something that yours doesn’t?

Is magnus more impacted by balance than you?

No.

So why is he higher rating?
Because he utilizes his skill.

I can continue to make comparisons and analogies as much as you’d like, but at the end of the day you’re not going to improve as a player until you recognize your mistakes as mistakes and fix them.

It is the case, wdym?
Stop trying to act as though you arent doing things that you are and vice versa.

Excellent, so you once again support my claim that skill is more impactful than balance. Great job!

so hammstring will not be buffed, blizzard will take 6 months to touch rogues and demon hunters

blizzard being blizzard