One time on Grobb i got ganked by a group of 3 level 63s in HFP,
I got mad really mad. Got a group together in local and we all grouped up and hunted them down till they were in their base hiding and camped them for over an hour,
If you get ganked by a 60 there’s tons of other 60’s who will come help you, that’s how PvP servers have always worked.
And you realize that you can flag yourself on a PvE server right? then they can initiate a fight and tag themselves, there’s still PvP you just want it your own way
Because I literally don’t want to play on a PVE server.
What happens is my every new WoW release my buddy and I fight about it. He wants to go on a PVE server and I want to go on a PVP.
My buddy likes pvp…but only when it’s fair. Just one or two times he got griefed by a level 60 and he’s given up on pvp servers.
A lot of people say they like pvp until they actually pvp.
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I got mad really mad. Got a group together in local and we all grouped up and hunted them down till they were in their base hiding and camped them for over an hour
Okay. Let’s say that same thing happens 10 times. The 9 other times the players are just genna quit.
Like, a new player isn’t even going to think to do that…
Think to ask for help? I think that’s a you issue man, it’s an MMORPG you’re missing the whole point of why PvP servers exist, join a PvP Guild
I can’t tell you how many times i’ve been ganked and had a buddy from guild come and wipe the floor with them and the satisfaction of seeing them run.
Ya’ll have still yet to give a single reason not to prevent griefing…other than “it doesn’t bother you.”
Well if it doesn’t 'bother you, then it’s no bother if it’s removed. Problem solved. Everybody wins.
Oh yea that’s real fun…begging a high level player to beat him up for you.
That really satisfies my pvp cravings… /s
Begging? now you’re either trolling or strawmanning
pvp isn’t greifing.
Stopping from killing grays would mean that summoning alts would be immune. That’s ridiculous. That random lowbies could run through contested zones and not get attacked…
I think you are fighting definitions, which is just kinda of a strange fight. A pvp server, pvp is always turned on. Anytime it can be toggled on / off by the player that is a pve server…
I kinda agree with the bloodelf above that you’re probably just trolling here and we are biting 
Begging captures the pathetic nature of needing another player to solve your problems for you.
Waaa waaaa help me waaaa.
I would never do that. I have too much self respect.
That random lowbies could run through contested zones and not get attacked…
And? So? Who cares?
Even if it enables top pvpers to do some clever thing (which you never described) that’s still way better than enabling griefing.
Griefing is killing (or breaking their stuff) of a player for no reward, or even if it gives negative consequence. If you don’t get honor from a kill, then it is by definition griefing.
A pvp server, pvp is always turned on.
Not if they make it so a pvp server can be turned off at any time…which they could totally do.
Yeah its fun when i win.
Its griefing when i lose. We get it.
Homie has no reason being on a pvp server. He too sensitive, too soft.
Stick to pve or rp. No one wants these changes because real pvpers are mature enough to move on, take an L or gank back.
PVP IS NOT YOUR CUP OF TEA. PERIOD.
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Case in point.
Oh no I picked a pvp server and since I got ganked im gonna cry on the forums waaahhhh.
Jesus make a group and fight back that’s the entire point
It’s griefing when you get no honor…
Ya’ll ask me for a definition. I give one. And you stick your heads back in the sand.
You guy’s are such fake pvpers. Clearly you can only get kills if it’s on a guy 40 levels lower than you.
That’s why you’re defending this system so hard.
I don’t think pvp is YOUR cup of tea.
I think there is a flash game called “my buddy” you can throw grenades and punch him and he can’t fight back. You would love it.
I didn’t realize you have no friends to play with lets just turn warmode on so carebears like you can have a safe place to do nothing
Oh yea let me just get a group of level 30s that way we can all die to the level 60. I’m sure that will be fun for the level 60.
Or am I supposed to beg a level 60 to come be my buddy guard? WoW, such satisfying pvp /s
It’s implied this person is being camped for a long period of time yea i would ask a buddy to hang out for a while or type in general chat to get some help or even in guild chat.
But let’s all cater to a few incompetent people.
and since this is season of discovery the lvl cap is 25 lol