It would have to be an identity that feels appropriate to the Tauren, the Blood Elves, and the Zandalari.
So maybe not necessarily “malevolently deceptive,” but more “playful/trickster” deceptive?
Maybe more along the lines of I invent stuff and give my followers gifts/visions, it’s on you if you abuse said inventions/visions. Would explain why he/she is way more hands off than Elune is
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This I could definitely see if he’s a smith/forger-type, considering Felo’melorn as a weapon.
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Like Bwon, or Jani, or the Gnomes/Goblins
Which would give a root behind the Felo’melorn visions mentions, the Tauren ability to Spiritwalk attributed to him, and the way Trolls lose the ability to regenerate if they lose favor
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See, we need more Jani-style First Ones goodness.
“'EY, WHATCHU GOT DERE, RICHMON!?”
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Give it back, you know that doesn’t belong to you! 
Imagine Belore saying this to Kael’thas on Felo’melorn 
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Something like Funs over kid, I want my toy back in that voice where if you don’t know if he’s serious or just messing with you
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I did mention “Loki-like.” Though, depending on which version of that you go by, he can be anything.
Although, now that I think about it, I can picture An’she as a "pan-like’ figure, taking the form of a Satyr or Sylvar (possibly the original of those shapes as well), mirthfully gallivanting around and playing a harp or flute.
And this immediately after Kael’thas has “graduated” from the Accuser’s Redemption School 
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You literally connect your conception with everything possible, whether it makes so much sense or not? i mean, a concept is by definition to establish connections, so far I agree with you, but where does Bwonsamdi have anything to do with it, where does he have the connection to Aggramar and why? Khaz’Goroth, yeah, it makes sense if he like a smith of creaton in some terms, but aggramar?
Where does the connection to Hakkar really fit into the concept, especially if it should hit Tauren trolls AND blood elves, is with two/three an exclusion of blood magic included, because these have quite little to do with it in their “Culture”, also no bloodlust in their race is particularly common.
Then the Titanforged, this makes the least sense of all, since it was clearly the Titans here, the Titanforged were not created by Elune after all, but the Titans.
Ultimately, of course, you can say: Elune had a pillar, but as I said, created the Titanforged by the Titans. if you want to create a conception of a god, think carefully and connect him to things where it make sense:
For example: Your Felo’Melorn example, it was a good idea, a smart idea, yeah, it would FIT.
But Hakkar/Sethe…or Bwonsamdi (We know who is behind bwonsamdi, btw)
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Blood Moon (Lunar Eclipse) is a Solar effect on the Moon; Elune/White Lady blocked out the Sun to take Ysera’s soul (Solar Eclipse).
Bwonsamdi in the Battle for DA changes and replaced the White Lady with a Blood Moon to summon the dead.
Each member of each Pantheon was possibly created by different First Ones alone or in collaboration
Eonar and Winter Queen are sisters (so same parent, at least one); so Aggramar and Khazgoroth are brothers (An’she, the Smith of the First Ones).
Aggramar created Grond, forging him from smashing elemental energy into a mountain. Not as “fancy” as Khazgoroth’s constructs, but a construct all the same.
He uses a Blood Moon and Blood Magic, summons the dead, etc
Why would An’she interact with everyone in the same way? Isn’t your whole thing that Elune doesn’t do that?
If Eonar is Elune’s daughter, and Winter Queen is Elune’s daughter, then Freya and Moonberry are her granddaughters in a magical sense as they are creations of her creations, just as through Cenarius (son) the Centaurs are her great-grandchildren.
Likewise if An’she is the father of Khazgoroth and Aggrammar, both Ra and Grond are his grandchildren in the same magical sense.
Hypothetical LIfe First One’s children are probably all the Wild Gods (and thus Tauren are child grandchildren).
The interaction is different, but the granted magic/strength is always the same, which would definitely not be the case here.
So in summary, because it’s …COOL? Right? So the only thing that would be “thematic” about it would be the fact that it does something with the constellations, but the rest? The rest would be absolutely independent. I mean, we know that the moon as a symbol of magic since time immemorial on Azeroth somehow amplifies magical events, great arcane rituals can only take place under certain magical lunar conditions, also apparently blood magic, or the magic which Bwonsamdi uses (Scourge can do it without, difference btw).
So Equality? Right? wouldn’t Khaz and Denathrius be much more…fitting?
If Eonar is Elune’s daughter, this would fundamentally change how we see the Titans. Thatthe Titans are not just the creations of the First Ones but the literal Children of the Gods.
This would also make Azeroth a daughter of Elune as well.
Which also makes you wonder about the how Azeroth, the Well of Eternity, and Elune are all connected.
Possible.
The theory has been around for a while that Azeroth is the wild card of Elune, should the balance get out of control for a reboot.
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What? Yeah I mean I also think An’she is Denathrius’s father given the Blood Magic motif idea.
But Aggramar also created life in a way different from the other Titans; Grond was an elemental being that gave birth to “mortal races” through Life-centric “contamination” (spores), while Khazgoroth created Titan-constructs that turned mortal after Old God/Shadow corruption.
But yes I would say Denathrius, Khazgoroth, and Aggramaar are all his “kids”, but I think Denathrius has a “dual parentage” between An’she and Hypothetical Dark First One. Eonar/Winter Queen are both daughters are Elune + Life First One. Elune + An’she are the parents of the Naaru.
Etc.
No? Because in real life Lunar Eclipses are effects of the Sun and all Sun Gods are often tied to either Death or the Underworld. E.g. Ra, Inti, Apollo; Blood Moons in many mythologies are seen as the Sun trying to take over the Moon.
So tying the Blood Moon in WoW as a dark-side of the Solar First One would be an interesting use of themes and ideas.
?? So who do you think the Shadowmoon Clan was engaging with that taught them runes and shamanism? They learned shamanism and how to speak with the dead from looking at the moon and stars; the use pieces of the moon in Shadowmoon Burial Grounds to soothe and guide the ancestors.
I think it was Elune. Thus diversifying what Elune gives to peoples. Same with the Tidemother, I also think she is Elune.
So that’s three races where Elune taught Druidry (Fyzandians, Night Elves, Luna’lai) and two races where Elune taught Shamanism and Runes (Shadowmoon Orcs and Kul Tirans).
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Personally I think having An’she and/or Belore as a comparative to Elune would be great - I really never liked the conceptualization of Elune as a single “power” of some sort. We might not need to know all the details of how they fit into the universe, but unless we’re going to suggest a monotheistic view (which I really hope WoW doesn’t put in) I would like to see more.
I like balance and symmetry, so a few more would be nice. The concepts Baal has rolled out are - at the heart - straightforward progressions toward a “group” from what (little) we know of Elune.
And while the Night Elves attribute a lot to Elune (and other races don’t as much) there is often so few storylines that go in-depth with the “other” races (basically, everyone besides Humans, Night Elves, and Orcs) that it wouldn’t even be retconning to say the Tauren attribute event X to An’she while the Night Elves believe it was Elune.
“Because of this disagreement, it’s considered impolite to bring this up at any Druid dinner parties.”
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Wouldn’t that be a kick. Night Elves learning that Elune was once worshipped by orcs…
Would they be offended or would it just re-enforce their perception of Elune?
Eh, it’d be parallel to Draenei discovering all their naaru are actually created by Elune and An’she in collaboration
Or if the Church of the Holy Light was “revealed” to the humans by An’she instead of the Naaru, but he didn’t reveal himself fully
etc
You know, nothing in Night Elf culture or in WoW lore states that Elune is “the one true god.” She’s just the only God the Night Elves care about.
So it’s not so much monotheistic as it is “Agostotheistic.”
Er… Elune-centric theistic.
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