Make all transmog learnable

A lot of people are going to be disappointed to log into prepatch, start with the vanilla raids and discover that tier 1 and 2 isn’t learnable if not looted on the specific class.
It’s seems arbitrary that you can run Cata raids and send tier tokens to alts but can’t do the same with Vanilla / Legion raids.

Blizz has given the reason for this restriction as maintaining “class identity”, although I don’t see how class identity is achieved by restricting an account from collecting an item. Class identity is achieved by only allowing that class to wear the item or use it as a transmog, which is already the case.

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The simplest solution would just be to swap out the class specific gear from the loot tables and add tokens. Problem solved.

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I was under the impression they will be made warbound, so you can send them to warband bank.

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So you want to learn mogs for alts even when playing a toon that cant wear it…

That would make getting mogs a lot faster, and it would end people rolling on BoPs for their Alts when they clearly don’t need them.

edit: I’m not familiar with the warbound bank and how that works, I’ve been too busy playing remix to have time to look anything up.

I don’t think there’s any roll competition when you’re soloing old content.

Need/Transmog/Greed rolls still have their own rules so need rolls are still based upon what someone’s class/spec is.

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You mean the people who didn’t read that it was a limitation in seven billion converstations about it over the past months?

Some tier sets are token related and they’re code restricted to class.

Who cares. Transmog collectors will already have tier sets because those are the easiest appearances to get anyway. Multiple drop from source bosses without competing for loot slots with trash like jewelry & trinkets.

Why would anyone care about mogs for alts when the alt is not high level enough to just solo the content themselves?

Maybe the OPs idea makes sense but ONLY if the alts are high enough level to have gotten it by themselves. It just seems weird to allow players to gather mogs with their main, for a level 10 they rarely play.

Not sure what point you’re making. Tier tokens are being converted to “Binds to Warband” so you can run the raids on one character and transfer them to alts. Only Vanilla/Legion raids is this not possible as these expacs did not use tier tokens. It’s an arbitrary restriction when the intent is to make collections account wide.

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i swear i read somewhere that after unanimous opinion they walked back the rule that you can’t learn class specific mogs and this was month’s ago

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Community feedback is what led tier tokens to being made warbandable. Blizz doubled down on class specific items being locked to the specific class. A lot of people think Blizz addressed this limitation, hence the frustration many people will discover when they start farming Vanilla / Legion raids this week (unless Blizz hotfixes this and severs class restriction from preventing mog collection)

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I’m not sure if there’s a confusion here somewhere. I think you might be able to learn the transmog but you would only be able to use it on the specific class it was for.

Most of those vanilla raids don’t take long to run and can be done in about 10-15 minutes if you b-line from boss A to B to C. I did AQ20 on my druid in just under 4 minutes recently, Molten Core is like 10 thanks to Majordomo RP, BWL is a little more due to Razorgore fight, Vael RP, and Nefarian RP. AQ40 is just big, so most of it is running from A to B, but can still be done in less than 15. Classes with terrible mobility it will take longer, but I would be surprised if any took over 20 mins.

I’ll see you all in MC/BWL/AQ chat.

That tier pieces are code restricted.

I said that.

No? You can’t learn tokens on a different class, you can’t learn pieces on a different class.

So as I said:

All of them. The tokens can be transferred to the bank. The pieces cannot. But they’re all restricted.

It’s easier for them to make a token account bound than it is to remove the base coding of all tier gear.

This is true. Legion raids will be brutal though if Blizz doesn’t change it. Mythic Eonar in particular will take 7 clears on average to get the class specific chestpiece (not counting bonus rolls). Multiply that by 11 classes. And then multiply that by 4 difficulties. Idk anyone who is going to run Antorus hundreds of times. It’d be faster to wait for Legion remix ensembles.

I always thought older raid difficulties should be merged. There is no reason 4 modes need to exist. If anyone wants to show me a guild that caps characters at 30 so they can raid these, please do so, but as it stands right now old raids are more or less for transmog and RP. It used to also be for challenges too, with with that legacy content hidden buff that makes you hit everything for 15M damage, it’s not even that anymore.

Tokens are warbound. Class items are not

Why? Because reasons :dracthyr_shrug:

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It’d also cut down on a large amount of bloat on the older loot tables.

Nothing like getting multiple belts from a particular boss every week because 60% of the items on the table are the belts for each class.

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I may be being dense, but help me out…?

I run a Legion raid on my Hunter and a DK tier token drops. My Hunter will still NOT be able to use the token to unlock the chest appearance. But the token itself CAN go into my Warbank for my DK alt to then use and unlock that appearance.

Is that correct?

Yes, that’s what I read somewhere. Though, I’m not seeing that information in their news article.