terrible coders, scrap it and make wow2 already…
Did this with all Nvidia 460.xx drivers on both my old 1080ti and new 3090. I’m running 457.51 and while it works ok for the most part, I still get occasional screen flashing.
Blizzard is to blame as much as Nvidia.
Game companies have a direct line of communication with companies like AMD and NVIDIA. Blizzard not caring about even admitting the existence of the problem itself or contacting nvidia to work together on a fix is appalling.
461 released and the problem persists because blizzard doesn’t care
Another difference I should mention is that at least all nvidia did was ignore my tickets on this. Blizzard threated to ban me for reopening the ticket several times considering that the issue IS NOT FIXED.
I do agree that an issue like this persisting for as long as it has on a AAA title like World of Warcraft is not acceptable.
Running the latest 461.09 drivers on a GTX 1080. Constant flickering of some assets in Revendreth, Ardenweald, and the Maw. If I switch to dx11, the problem goes away entirely. I run 2K with gsync and ultra settings.
I tried switching to DX11 and it stopped briefly, then a couple hours later the flickering started all over again. I’m running a GTX1080TI. Hopefully NVIDIA can get it together and implement a fix soon, the problem has been going on for about a month now.
I do agree though that Blizz should push NVIDIA a bit more to get this done. Not sure about the overall logistics of it but end of day the game is their product that is not looking good for their users.
Thank you~ I tried the driver rollback but I dunno, I made a little mistake and got spooked by it so went back to normal, so this helps as a less techy fix.
Turning off shadows/particle density was only working every other time.
It takes 2 minutes to rollback…
Download the Nvidia driver version that doesn’t have the flicker which is 457.51. Then Just go into your control panel and uninstall the current Nvidia Driver 4xx.xx. This will uninstall everything with that driver…
Restart…
Then Install the driver you downloaded and select “yes” to installing geforce experience because why not.
That’s literally it…stop being a wuss.
Yeah I totally want to follow your advice, you’re a super nice guy
Have you considered a career in CS? It may just be your calling.
It’s not my advice, it took me 2 secs to google search how to rollback a driver and first results were from Nvidia support.
This doesn’t require technical knowledge…you’re just being weird.
Heya, there really is no “fix” short of installing the 457.51 drivers. I had the .97 drivers installed and all I did was download from the link below and run the installer. It will uninstall the driver you are currently using and install 457.51 which is the only one with no/very little flicker. Just go with all the defaults (keep clicking next) and once its done you will be good to go till they decide to fix this issue.
Here is the direct link to the 457.51 driver
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/results/167108/
Today someone on the NVIDIA forums thread about all issues w/ this driver stated he fixed it by using NVIDIA Inspector to remove the driver’s profile for WOW and then import one from an older working driver and he’s fine. Don’t know the steps to do that myself yet, but it looks like NVIDIA either needs to restore an older profile or fix the current one hopefully in the next build…
For curiosity, I exported the profile from 456.38 (what I’ve been using myself) and from 461.09 (latest release). There’s exactly one difference between the two, which is a setting that has no corresponding normally user-accessible equivalent.
Specifically the older driver has SettingID 7168407 set to a DWORD 2729785185. Those would be 0x006D6197 and 0xA2B53761 respectively. The newer drivers don’t have that setting defined at all.
Using the NVIDIA Profile Inspector it is possible to re-add this missing entry. Navigate to the World of Warcraft - Retail profile, select the Show unknown settings from NVIDIA predefined profiles button (2nd icon from the right, not including “Apply changes”). Scroll down to the Unknown section at the bottom and about 27 entries down you should see 0x006d6197 with a value of 0. Change this to 0xA2B53761, which should also correspond to “Shadow of the Tomb Raider” and is the only pre-set option, and apply.
If you’d rather just make and import a profile, copy the following code block into a text file and rename it with a .nip extension (eg “WoW.nip”) before importing it:
<ArrayOfProfile>
<Profile>
<ProfileName>World Of Warcraft - Retail</ProfileName>
<Executeables>
<string>_retail_/wow.exe</string>
<string>_retail_/wowt.exe</string>
<string>_retail_/wow-64.exe</string>
<string>_retail_/wow64.exe</string>
<string>_retail_/wowb-64.exe</string>
<string>_retail_/wowb.exe</string>
</Executeables>
<Settings>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>2916165</SettingID>
<SettingValue>1</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo>NVIDIA Predefined Ambient Occlusion Usage</SettingNameInfo>
<SettingID>6701881</SettingID>
<SettingValue>1</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>7069001</SettingID>
<SettingValue>4229428752</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>7168407</SettingID>
<SettingValue>2729785185</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>10512710</SettingID>
<SettingValue>704714229</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>15369157</SettingID>
<SettingValue>4229428752</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo>NVIDIA predefined SLI mode</SettingNameInfo>
<SettingID>271830721</SettingID>
<SettingValue>3</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo>NVIDIA predefined SLI mode on DirectX 10</SettingNameInfo>
<SettingID>271830722</SettingID>
<SettingValue>2</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo>NVIDIA predefined number of GPUs to use on SLI rendering mode</SettingNameInfo>
<SettingID>271834322</SettingID>
<SettingValue>4</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo>NVIDIA predefined number of GPUs to use on SLI rendering mode on DirectX 10</SettingNameInfo>
<SettingID>271834323</SettingID>
<SettingValue>4</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo>NVIDIA Predefined FXAA Usage</SettingNameInfo>
<SettingID>271895433</SettingID>
<SettingValue>0</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>274606621</SettingID>
<SettingValue>4</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo>Do not display this profile in the Control Panel</SettingNameInfo>
<SettingID>275602687</SettingID>
<SettingValue>0</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>278257400</SettingID>
<SettingValue>37749765</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>279618412</SettingID>
<SettingValue>1</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>283591713</SettingID>
<SettingValue>1</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo>Antialiasing - Behavior Flags</SettingNameInfo>
<SettingID>283958146</SettingID>
<SettingValue>1</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo>Enable application for Optimus</SettingNameInfo>
<SettingID>284810369</SettingID>
<SettingValue>17</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo>Shim Rendering Mode Options per application for Optimus</SettingNameInfo>
<SettingID>284810372</SettingID>
<SettingValue>16777216</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>540674073</SettingID>
<SettingValue>AQAAAAAAAAA=</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Binary</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>1881060439</SettingID>
<SettingValue>1</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>1881294007</SettingID>
<SettingValue>236</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>1883883500</SettingID>
<SettingValue>1.0</SettingValue>
<ValueType>String</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>1884112238</SettingID>
<SettingValue>System>Graphics>Liquid Detail=Fair, Shadow Quality=Low</SettingValue>
<ValueType>String</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>1884415477</SettingID>
<SettingValue>1</SettingValue>
<ValueType>String</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>1885319148</SettingID>
<SettingValue>2004-01-01 00:00:00</SettingValue>
<ValueType>String</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>1886154800</SettingID>
<SettingValue>Blizzard</SettingValue>
<ValueType>String</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>1888336069</SettingID>
<SettingValue>1069680317</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>1889148383</SettingID>
<SettingValue>1</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>1889322464</SettingID>
<SettingValue>Action/Fantasy</SettingValue>
<ValueType>String</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>1889616154</SettingID>
<SettingValue>0</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>1890934847</SettingID>
<SettingValue>D3D</SettingValue>
<ValueType>String</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>1894626177</SettingID>
<SettingValue>35</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
<ProfileSetting>
<SettingNameInfo />
<SettingID>2156231208</SettingID>
<SettingValue>1</SettingValue>
<ValueType>Dword</ValueType>
</ProfileSetting>
</Settings>
</Profile>
</ArrayOfProfile>
Unfortunately I haven’t found a way to alter the profile correctly without the NVIDIA Profile Inspector tool. If you don’t have it, and you really should if you’ve got an NVidia card, you can get it here: https://github.com/Orbmu2k/nvidiaProfileInspector/releases
Just in case it’s at all relevant, I used the pre-release 2.3.0.12. However, 2.3.0.10 is the last “full” release.
In regards to effect? Well, I just installed 461.09 to do this comparison, and I haven’t looked at the videos previously to know what exactly I should be seeing. But I did fly into Ardenweld, DX12, 4X MSAA w/ alpha test, 10 detail save ground clutter, on a GTX1080, and the only flickering I saw was what I have always assumed to be map transition related - just one flick during flight between zones, then solid.
Longevity? Dunno. But for now it seems to work.
Same issue here. Actually came to the forums wondering if it was just me. Great to see it’s not. On version 461.09 with a GTX 1070 Ti from MSi. Looks exactly like what’s in the video.
Thanks for this. Curious to see if this fixes the issue.
Have you tried switching to DX11 Legacy? It is a little different than DX11 & 12. That seems to work for some. Not guaranteed tho.
Thanks for that, I’ll import it later today when I have some time. As for testing, run around The Maw, that’s where I saw it the most.
Edit: I used your dump to make a new profile and flicker is gone, but I’m seeing a weird color banding effect in Maldraxxus. I use studio drivers so I’m going to pull the data from v452.06 which is what I was using before I was forced to update to v460.89 and will report back later today…
Edit 2: Looks like the banding was due to a fog over ToP, I didn’t see it panning around other distant mountains. I’m using an exported profile from Studio v452.06 and all seems fine. So yeah, NVIDIA changed/broke something lol
This appears to have solved the issue. I applied your fix and I’ve been playing for about half an hour with no flickering whatsoever.
Well done and thanks.
There’s something else in play here, while I’m now not seeing any flickers in the world, I’m seeing it other areas. For example opening up my Transmog collection/Dressing Room is showing a lot of flickering while the same gear I have on doesn’t.