I understand the point of many players saying: “oh mage tower isnt that hard…” but if you think about it, people (like me) probably won’t have the time to make 1500 attempts to get this done. Specially if you are aiming for that new dudu form.
At PTR it was challenging, and also doable, you know? You didn’t need to waste (depending on the server) around 250k-400k to get the best gear, gems, consumables.
Also, for people saying that “first time it came out, it was as hard as it is now”, well, at that time you had a sht ton of legendary and artifacts able to USE, which would make your game way easier… Also the fact that they actualy nerfed mage tower right after… So… That Hp boost that bosses got on its release, its kinda weird?
I don’t know, all the hype I had for mage tower (when I did on PTR I was like: OH FINE, 2 weeks to get this and I just did on my 18 try, cool!) now its totally differente, and the fact that some servers (like I was saying) you have to waste a lot of money, or being FORCED to grind some gear, which you will also have to pay someone under 45 to get the best drops from ICC and other raids?
Anyways, if you say that “oh but there’s actualy some people that have done it already”, yeah and that really small % of players are those that can afford a lot of time farming or gold spending.
Most of them are sub 10 attempts, the tank one and healer one are quite difficult though and so are a few dps specs like assass rogue. But other than that if you watch a guide it will probably die without too much hassle in SL gear.
I would love to see people in SL gear without any cheese to it doing Guardian druid run on only 10 attempts.
And also the fact of comparing people that can afford the time&gold to it, its just nonsense.
In SL gear if you are not 250+ you will probably die on second anhilation. But anyways.
I really don’t understand why they brought back the time gating. One of the most hated things about the original (remember when the building used to get destroyed for “reasons”).
At least we don’t need to go farm nethershards for the entrance/attempt fee.
These devs seriously squander so many good ideas. Half of the stuff they do it’s always just … “Why!? Why would you do this?”.
I don’t actually think that is true. It is just ilvl 50, period.
You will benefit far more by optimizing for whatever stats are your BiS. So you can straight up go buy a properly stat’ed green ring from SL and it could be better than whatever you might be wearing form raid (inside of the MT).
You can test it. Just equip any green item with the same stats as what you have on and zone in with your current gear and the test item and see that your stats get scaled down to the same thing.
It actually matters, everything matters… If you do on an avarage gear for SL without cheese you wont make it… You get 1 shot by the secon anhilation… So again: My point is that you’re FORCED to farm or spend a lot of gold. In case you are not a part of the small % of “elite” players if you wanna call them like that.
Also, I would love to see the numbers for the current status of mage tower… Which will probably be the same as mage tower 1 and the yhad to nerf it.
Not exactly true. It does matter to an extent, I watched a video of a 250+ feral druid kill Agatha and they maintained around 730 dps the entire fight.
My buddy attempted Agatha multiple times on his 220 feral and was falling almost 150 dps short of that, mind you this is a heroic raider/gladiator player so the skill isn’t an issue. Just straight up doesn’t have the damage.
Possibly could have to do with certain trinkets but the 250ilvl dude was using SL trinkets anyway.
This. If people are saying its not hard or it should be this hard because “challenge” they’re clearly trolling.
it’s cosmetic rewards, it doesn’t need to be some insane grind to get nor does it affect anybody negatively if the majority of people complete it. It’s insane that people are actually arguing that it needs to be so hard that only the elites can complete it. For what? cosmetics, that’s a whole new level of neckbeard-ism at that point.
Different gear with different stats with different trinkets. Take 2 toons with the exact same pieces, except one has the full Mythic SoD set, the other the full LFR SoD set, everything identical, they’ll have the same exact gear in the Mage Tower.
No, it’s not. All my gear sets for Mage Tower were sub-100 ilvl.
You’re correct there’s no argument, because the same item, one 220 and one 246 for exemple give the same exact result inside Mage Tower :
ilvl 50 is ilvl 50. Doesn’t matter what the original item’s ilvl was. Not all procs/trinkets react the same when downscaled, and stat weights fluctuate so stat balance will change.
Not to mention 2 pulls will have vast variance on Agatha just because of add spawns and AoE not hitting all of them the same.
So you’re missing out on a transmog. A transmog which would mean nothing if everyone had it.
Its a good thing gear gets scaled because that means the difficulty remains static. Whenever you do it, it’ll always mean something. I haven’t even attempted it yet, but I’m fully prepared to try and fail but gradually improve.
ah yes a legendary I have 50 jobs 69 kids and 25 wives I don’t have time for this thread. nobody is forcing you to do mt it’s not required to play the game. and while very difficult some have already proven that it’s possible with SL gear.
