Mage Tower Extended Maintenance

That’s fine, and I’ll always disagree, your idea is bad for the long term.

It’s best if we don’t engage any further then.

A good game never removes content.

Content removal only kills people’s will to play or enjoy a game.

If anything, the old content can be remastered to fit modern parts of the game to help maintain it’s challenge.

Also they had 4 months of testing or more to make sure the entire game is balanced, this sudden mage tower removal makes no sense, beyond a “whoops! we forgot we have that there! let’s take it out for maybe a half a year or longer to fix it… if we don’t forget about it like everything else.” as they dodgingly look at auto transform worgen players.

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My lack of Meat Wagon doesn’t kill my will to play or enjoy this game, so I guess you can only speak for yourself.

Apparently it’s still obtainable, but I don’t see why it would be given what the promotion was during BFA at that time.

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Cool, so stop putting down other people’s opinion if we can only speak for ourselves, oh person who thinks they are more important then everyone else!

Because you totally are just speaking for yourself too.

Complaints of content removal had been a legitimate complaint from gamers since the inception of dlc’s, digital sales, and other parts of gaming.

Mage tower is being taken down, most likely due to lack of forsight or someone slacking off.

If the history of blizz stating things is precedent, then it is safe to call it removed content.

no body cares bring the damn server up

It isn’t just me, actually not me at all for some situations. Great example are those players asking for past Gladiator mounts pre-SL to be put on a vendor for Marks of Honor so they can complete their mount collections with less OCD.

If someone actually earns, puts in the blood+sweat+tears to obtain an r1, they 100% have a more important opinion on the topic of placing it on a vendor for Marks of Honor than any of us.

… even given the few players I know who have a long string of those from around MoP through BFA care so little about cosmetics they wouldn’t give a damn… that’s besides the point, they’ve clearly put in far more work during those specific seasons so, yes, what they say has far more merit than what we say.

It isn’t asinine to think that the reward that involves the amount of effort put into earning an r1 shouldn’t ever be made available to someone who has Marks of Honor lying around willing to do nothing but complain they don’t have it.

And if you’re going to belittle their effort like so many others by making anything done in a video game sound petty or meaningless when it fits the scenario where you benefit, then maybe games like this just aren’t for you. Nothing wrong with that either.

Saying

is just wild.

But that’s you and lots of people may not feel how you feel. As someone who wasn’t around during Legion and only recently started playing WoW, I’m disheartened and unsubbing - I’m sure I’ll revisit the game eventually, but it is still a blow to my personal morale. I was working hard towards a goal that was taken away with little to no notice and no concrete timeline on its return, and even though I understand it’s fair to reward long term players, I’m still very demotivated that I have no real opportunity to earn something that I feel greatly enhances my own enjoyment of the game (call it petty, but appearance of my little character is really important to me in the games I play).

I think even in the short time I’ve played the game I’ve seen this sentiment echoed by many of my peers. It’s something that can be alienating to new players - not everyone, sure, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t still those it applies to, or that it can’t be put into consideration.

Then they need to make the challenge current along with the game. make it evolve with the world, not just delete it entirely.

It’s not wild, back when the term “gaming sin” slang existed, people believed game devs removing content is one of them.

It’s not a new concept of it being a bad thing for gaming. Allot of successful games transformed into unsuccessful games rather quickly due to content removal, and in some cases ends up with their customers revolting against the companies creating a nightmare for the companies customer support.

You said you weren’t around during Legion.

If you’re for some reason talking about Timewalking MT and not MT weapon appearances, they are returning. OP made that evident.

The, say, Cloud Serpents? That represent the very specific MoP era seasons? How the game functioned during those seasons? How?

Funny, World of Warcraft is a complete juggernaut of a video game yet didn’t sign up to what you’re saying they should have, even during its highest highs.

Yes… I was working towards my goal of the current mage tower appearances, even though I was still saddened I couldn’t have the originals (literally because I didn’t play wow when legion came out - not because I’m not willing to bust my buns to try to earn the achievement; as should be evident by me farming gear for weeks to try to have a better chance at it).

They will return. They won’t “forget”.

These are significantly more popular than something like, say, the WoD crafting appearances that they forgot about (or… it was at least only speculated they forgot about it… could’ve just deemed them too minor to bother yet)

They didn’t started to remove content heavily until after wrath. The trend of the game started to decline then. It’s one of the bad decisions that is slowly killing WoW.

They created timewalking deleveling mechanics, they created world mob lvl and ilvl scaling, they can get that to work easy.

You haven’t been around long have you.

I’m still waiting for worgens to get the auto transform feature blizz promised in cata.

Or how about that dance studio?

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WoW has had a lot of highs since Wrath, and judging the game solely based off of population is silly. Legion for instance was a homerun. If you’re still around yet think everything since Wrath has been bad, then… what?

You can’t only assume population decline was because of OCD collecting…

legion came no where close to wrath, not even remotely in popularity.

They stopped reporting subs in WoD because it gotten extremely low to the point it made them look bad bruh. The fact they are still hiding them means we are not in a state where they can pridely report it for their investors. and yes, population of a product is important to it’s success. That is how companies earns a profit, from sales.

And that may be true, but I’m still not really interested in continuing playing when I have no concept of when they -might- come back; I think they absolutely could have given more notice on this plan or even a better timeline on when we can expect things to possibly return.

I do think it’s unfair there are so many things new players can never have or do because they weren’t around years ago, and not being able to customize my character in the way I want due to not having been around years ago is contributing to why I don’t want to play WoW now - people like me exist regardless of if people like you also exist, that’s my point, which you have been dismissing under the guise that because it doesn’t matter to you, it shouldn’t matter.

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Im a demon hunter tank can u please fix mage tower

Agreed! It’s sad to see such fun cosmetics removed for no other reason than to spite future players.

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this is idiotic BRING UP THE DAMN SERVER