Since Blizzard usually decides not to help or even listen to most talks about what needs help, seeing as they still don’t tune classes super far down, or tune a class like wind walker the minimal amount -
I wanted to inquire here on people’s thoughts.
Mage is currently one of the lowest performing classes as a whole in the game for raid, even in prog they were quite low performing as more gear was gained.
Mage experiences the most bugs in raid on any of their specs in the current raid, before a patch was released, frost mage alone lost around 11% of their dps due to a projectile speed interaction with Volcross’ hitbox.
Moving on with the same Idea in mind, Fire has projectile speed that doesn’t work well on volcross and Nymue, Frost especially experiences this and is a major dps loss whenever you play these fights, your projectile speed does not work well with these bosses’ hit boxes - The further away you have to be for Nymue the more it glitches, on Volcross it will glitch no matter what.
Thoughts on mage tuning and buggy mage experiences in Raid.
Mage tuning since the rework has been abyssmal, when it was obvious it needed help we didn’t get it, frost has a bad single target tier set - and that was obvious, but they didn’t change it until the last second. Only by a slight bit.
Mage inside of m+ isn’t performing the worst, it isn’t demon hunter or bm hunter, or anything insane, though this really only includes one spec, all of them clearly need to be buffed for raid.
With the abysmal tuning, a few bosses in the raid having class defining bugs on them that mess up anything in your rotation, and still haven’t been hotfixed…
Not looking so hot for the int buff class.
Side Note: The frost projectile speed has to do with many interactions, flurry before glacial spike interactions previously were not working as intended. Now though, simply icicle generation is not working as intended and this has been a bug since forever with hitboxes and ranged for frost. Ice lance refuses to generate icicles properly most of the time with a large hitbox/ranged casting.
Side note #2: I am quite aware of the other classes not getting as much as they would’ve liked, on a side note - Warriors are getting a legendary that puts them at the top of the charts, Ret is getting same said legendary - as are most melee classes that can wield it. Shadow priest is in a sorry state, though is now performing better than any mage spec in raid, dev has gotten buffs and may also start to perform better too. Which would leave mage right next to Wind walker in the end, and not just one spec - the entire class.
I’m not talking about pvp, if you would’ve read I’m talking about pve, and as the current #1 US frost mage, I think I know my rotation pretty well, thank you little one.
This isn’t a place for you to come and troll, so please don’t I’d rather this be about seriously talking about the place mage is in, not some troll trying to incite some stupid drama.
What are you going on about? Goated? Personally, I feel arcane needs damage buff to arcane missiles for pvp single target. The arcane artillery spell hits barely harder than two arcane blasts and don’t require the absurd rng and setup for artillery.
Also although not sure about “#1” worldwide rankings for OP are 3-4th for ‘allstar’ in their spec so they could be for the US #1, they probably know a lot about what they’re referencing.
Showing all mage specs near the bottom for Mythic, heroic is heroic, and still that shows two mage specs near the bottom. You’re also using all percentiles, which is wrong, anybody can abuse the percentiles to make their ideals look different - we all know this.
I literally state in my thing CLASS, not spec, as I also state ww is the bottom spec.
you usually look at heroic statistics, as that is mostly the player base. and mythics hasnt been cleared that much atm to gather data.
mage is also doing quite well in M+
im aware. mage is still doing better than a lot of other classes
I also stated that any class with the legendary axe coming will instantly rise to the top - mage is also barely above classes, majority of which will get the legendary axe. Aug of which is not working properly in logs, wind walker of which has Mistweaver and brewmaster. - So, point being?
I also specifically pointed out raid, and mentioned that specifically frost mage is performing fine in m+, the other specs are okay. (Heroic is never the go to for balancing, never was.)
No, I properly assess the situation as the class as a whole and how different specs perform in raid, as to just assessing a single dps spec of a class and saying it’s simply far worse as a class than this other class.
Which is what you’ve been doing. I’m not here to only complain about mage, I’m here for criticism, but not half-baked things that just aren’t true.
