I might’ve posted this two months ago, I really cannot find what I thought I posted.
I am new to Mac.
I have an M3 chip got this in February.
I am trying to find suggested settings, including everything.
FPS used to be 60 now it’s like 37 and I know that’s not right.
Can someone please assist me? I would greatly appreciate it. I have played on PCs for a couple of decades and this is my first iMac
Just base M3? 8c? 10c?
I have access to an M2 Air w/ 10c that can do a steady 60 FPS with appropriate settings and games really well. I normally use an M3 Max with 30c GPU for 4K/120Hz on an OLED TV and relatively high settings.
If you reset it to default settings on the MBA, it does pretty well — I just tweak a few things for the steady 60 FPS.
What settings are you currently using?
First thing make sure the game is set the native resolution (whether it’s 5k or 4k…depending on your display) and set render scale to 50%.
Next turn down shadow quality and turn off SSAO.
Turn off any anti-aliasing. You don’t need it at that resolution.
Everything else should be fine at high or ultra.
MacMini M2 Pro. My uncapped fps is 140+ on the highs and 70s on the lows. You should be getting better than me.
Another good way to get good fps on apple silicon is to reduce water. The way screen space reflections are done in wow is a bit dated and performs extra bad on tile based gpu renderers. It was coded with specific optimizations to traditional gpus that is counter to what apple gpus expect. The performance impact of liquid above “fair” is a bit crushing, especially in certain areas and higher resolution targets.
i usually leave everything ultra on my M3 Max, except compute to off and liquid fair.
but it does make world feel less immersive in some places, so I can also understand leaving liquid good or high and taking concession elsewhere such as render scale. for example i run render scale 75% on a 4k display instead of 50%. far more crisp, but to do so, liquid screen space reflections is my concession.
Hey, thank you for the response. I had trouble getting back online the last few days.
It’s a iMac M3. I bought February of this year.
I guess I probably should’ve gone 16 on the memory, but I left it at 8.
Display is a 24 inch 4K retina.
Native resolution is 4480 by 2520 that is default
I hit default for graphics
I do use render scale 50%.
Does the UI scale need to be adjusted off of 100%?
I turned off anti-aliasing, liquid is fair
shadow is low
Graphic setting is default at 4
Vrs mode disabled
Graphics api metal
ASSAO is fxfidelity (default setting)
Texture filtering 16x
Ray traced… disabled
Depth effects low
Compute is Off
Outline is Off
SSAO is Disabled
Liquid particle, shadow are Fair
Spell density is half but when I said it to half I can’t see some things that I need to see like the candle wax being dropped, for example.
Stable Internet connectivity
That one person gets over 100 on a mini I’ll never have an idea, unless it’s a pro mini?
I cannot respond again until someone responds, so I’ll just add that if the person who gets the hundred frame rate could maybe list all of their settings and maybe I could use them, I don’t know, sigh
memory is holding you back massively. those settings are quite low, even lower than that processor should need. but i suspect if you’re having issues it’s just from sheer lack of memory so game isn’t able to cache much of anything in terms of program and video memory.
honestly it’s outright evil apple would basically release a mac with a native display that’s that big with only 8GB of ram.
how to improve situation really is just maybe even lower render scale lower, so base ersolution is 1080p (basically move slider til right number is 1080") cause you need to reduce it as much as possible to save that video memory while not going too far to make it blurry. make sure also scale type is set to FSR (fidelity super resolution)
Lastly, make sure you’re not running into the weak aura or addon performance issues caused by using models, this affects weak auras and unit frames the most.
for unit frames make sure you turn off portraits/3d models. for weak auras make sure you disable models in your weak aura displays
also if you use plater, details, or elvui, check settings of those addons as well.
https://www.wowhead.com/news/optimizing-fps-in-the-war-within-known-issues-and-solutions-347669 has more info about the addon stuff
I was afraid of that,
did not see a 1080p on the render sliding scale. I just lowered it to 35%
So the re-sample quality is Fidelity FX super and the ambient occlusion type is ASSAO
Basically what you’ve told me is this is the Mac version of a very low quality PC. That was my ignorance and my fault so I’ll have to fix it.
I don’t use WA, so that’s good
thank you very much for that information. I’ll do that and maybe possibly just build a new PC. As I understand it it’s expensive to even add an extra eight giga memory because Apple is kind of evil anyways
Thank you very much. I appreciate.!
macs handle it pretty well but yeah thing with mac is we have unifieid momory. a PC with 8 GB also has probably another 4-8GB of vram. you have 8GB total between vram and ram. you have to account for that. so any machine you spec for gaming, whatever your ram is, add another 8 gigs to that to cover vram.
so a 16GB mac is like an 8GB PC at this point. i say 16 is just a bare minimum, but 24 to 32 is nice sweet spot to cover having good amount of memory for ram and vram.
Would it be beneficial in anyway to get an external SSD and put the game there? I know I can’t run it from the SSD but maybe it would take some heat off of the VRAM?
Also, would the UI scale make a difference?
While I’m on that topic, ELVUI, I read the link that you posted and I really only use that and details, postal, tom tom.
I wonder if using LI to scale my eye in the set up process, has anything to do with the goofy render scale and or the UI scale in the WOW interface options
Hey there Gunwyvar, I have used these steps from reddit on my M2 macbook air (with 8gb ram like you), and I get 50-60 fps except for Dornogal (which is generally just laggy anyway). I hope this helps you, report back if it does!
The tweaks I made last night seemed to be of help. I should try your settings though.
Edit 1 - sitting in the deeps, just sitting in an unpopulated area at 40 fps with your settings.
Edit - 2 Stepped into nerub-ar palace wing 1, quickly dropped to 15. I did not have that problem on the Settings before.
No, I promise you I used your exact settings as you stated, but I guess for some reason it just doesn’t work with this machine.
Weeks I made last night had it running a little better. I think it’s because of that slider and that I only have eight gigs.
Thank you anyway I appreciate