Today I decided to do some Mythic+ for the first time in BfA. I was able to get into a +9 and we finished it in like 20 minutes. It says I’ll get a 405 item in my chest + residuum.
This is more than I get for 2k+ in arena, yet arena is honestly 10x harder and takes 20x as long to cap. I mean I never do dungeons and have no idea what I’m doing. Just interrupt casts and watch the ground stuff. I’d have tried a +10 but nobody will invite me lol. Maybe that’s way harder idk.
None of these players I was with would have any chance of trying arena and getting 2k in a day. These reward discrepancies are pretty ridiculous. Not sure I will even do arena anymore. Work harder and for longer for a lesser reward. Doesn’t make any sense.
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hey man, staying awake during mythic+ is the hard part
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i just watch tyler1 videos on my other monitor
have to keep pausing them when I que actual arena
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I mean I didn’t hate it and I’m looking forward to finally getting some residuum and extra gear.
It’s just very obvious the rewards are completely disproportionate for the skill required. At least up to +9. I can’t get into a 10 group so can’t really speak on that. Maybe everything gets crazy hard or something.
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no idea, i dont get invited bc i have no mythical io score and im an enhance shaman
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Yeah I just got that addon today so have no score either. I just kept applying until someone would accept me. I must have been declined by over 30 groups.
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You quitting arena cus mythic is easier to gear?
So you dont like pvp you jus want rewards?
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Oh no I love PvP. Look at my honor level lol. It’s literally all I do in this game. But I can probably get my fill from from just skirms and random BG’s.
I love rated arena too, but yeah I mainly do that for the rewards. From what I’ve seen today it’s probably not really worth the time, effort, and frustration compared to doing M+.
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You’re not wrong man. I’m definitely a pvper, have been for most of my WoW time. But, here lately I’ve dabbled in mythic + as well. Hey, I like all aspects of the game. Well, almost.
Still, I’ve never touched mythic+ until bfa. I got to 1.1k io S1 and am at nearly 1.6k now. I just cleared a 15 waycrest yesterday. Was 5secs away from 2 chesting it too >_<.
Anyway… what I’m getting at is mythic + is freakin’ cake. The hard part is doing what you have been to get your io up. Gotta clear those 8-9’s for every dungeon before people will take ya for 10’s, and so on and so forth. Kinda like credit.
I get a free 410 item every week and like 800+ residuum. That’s a rando 415 Azerite every 2 weeks. Pvp? I’ve been duelist and have only gotten I think one like 400 piece lol. That was probably during rival but still; the rewards aren’t even close to fair. I mean heck, you don’t even have to time the mythic to get the reward! Could take an hour to clear a 10 and still get a 410. Busted lol.
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I agree
Getting high ilvl gear in pve is a joke. They give away gear like candy, you don’t even have to finish the +10 on time to get the 410 piece, you just gotta finish it at all. Getting 410 gear in pvp is 40x more effort.
Yeah they didn’t scale well. PvE really took over.
I do it just for that fat 1500 azerite power.
What sucks is there’s no class specific cool transmog anymore.
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I got from 0 to ~1k IO in about 3 weeks or so. Isn’t hard. Now I get a 410+ every week and already have ~5k residuum…
From a healing perspective, M10+ is, without question, MUCH easier to heal than any 3s match above 2k rating, it doesn’t matter the affixes for the week. And, there’re the following added benefits :
- Faster to do the weekly (~20-30 minutes instead of 2-3 hrs to get PVP cap)
- You get much more AP from it - increasing the neckless level faster
- You can get more gear from it (end of run rewards) and a guaranteed 410 piece from the weekly chest. One can fail on every single mechanics and take 4 hrs to clear a +10, still get a 410 from the chest.
- Feels much more rewarding than this poop-flopping-badaboo pvp rewarding system that looks more like a punishment than anything else tbh.
If we compare the skill required + time invested vs the rewards, the PVP reward system is the worst system ever. Also, Deadly Boss will tell everything you need to do to succeed in PVE and even an ameba can follow its directions…
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M+ rewards scaling is wonky too. You get the same drops and weekly chest for a 20 that you get for a 10. The only difference is that there are more end of dungeon drops if you time + 2/3 chest 10 or above.
Arenas should work more like M+ does where you hit the “cap” quicker, just get more drops as you progress past the point. If we are being realistic, 1600 is probably about as puggable as +10 but that would be a ridiculous point to start throwing out 400+. 1800 would be fair imo. Then once you get 2100, loot drops more often, then once you get 2400, it drops double more often, etc.
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This is like getting to 1500 and calling pvp a joke
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If it makes you feel any better, gearing in M+ is easier than in PVE raiding, too. M+ is basically the continuation of the emissary gear loot pinata progression.
Wh do you say that? I am not saying “PvE is a joke”. I am just looking at a PvE activity and a PvP activity that give similar ilvl rewards and comparing the difficulty and time commitment.
I couldn’t do a Mythic raid. I’m sure at some key level I wouldn’t be able to complete a Mythic+ dungeon. I am not saying all PvE content is easy and PvE players are bad. What I am saying is that ilvl 405 gear from M+9 is about 20x easier and faster than getting 2k+ in arena.
It’s not a knock against PvE or against PvE players. It’s a knock against the devs and their reward system. The time and effort someone needs to put into getting 2k+ is in no way comparable to the time and effort someone has to put into being able to complete an M+9 dungeon.
I’d love to talk about M+10, but I can’t get into one so I’ll leave it out of the discussion for now. However I think that rewards gear equal to 2400 in arena right? I am skeptical the difficulty increases that much to warrant rewards equal with 2.4k+. Heck it’s actually more because you get residuum from dungeons and not from arena.
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Lol and only the rag groups send you an invite and the dungeon takes about 2 hours.
Because that’s about the same thing. a 9 is nothing when people are pushing 25s, 1500 is nothing when people are breaking 3k.
OK…but I am not saying +9 is good. I am saying +9 rewards are better than 2k rewards yet it’s easier.