M+ S1-S2 Side-by-Side

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Gearing

S1 Key EoD Vault Crest
2 Champion 1/8 Champion 4/8 Carved
3 Champion 1/8 Hero 1/6 Carved
4 Champion 2/8 Hero 1/6 Runed
5 Champion 3/8 Hero 2/6 Runed
6 Champion 4/8 Hero 2/6 Runed
7 Hero 1/6 Hero 3/6 Runed
8 Hero 1/6 Hero 4/6 Gilded
9 Hero 2/6 Hero 4/6 Gilded
10 Hero 2/6 Myth 1/6 Gilded
S2 Key EoD Vault Crest
2 Champion 2/8 Hero 1/6 Runed
3 Champion 2/8 Hero 1/6 Runed
4 Champion 3/8 Hero 2/6 Runed
5 Champion 4/8 Hero 2/6 Runed
6 Hero 1/6 Hero 3/6 Runed
7 Hero 1/6 Hero 4/6 Gilded
8 Hero 1/6 Hero 4/6 Gilded
9 Hero 2/6 Hero 4/6 Gilded
10 Hero 2/6 Myth 1/6 Gilded

Key Scaling

Key S1 S2
2 +10% (Bargain) 7% (Timer)
3 +21% 14%
4 +33% (Fort/Tyr) 23% (Bargain)
5 +46% 31%
6 +61% 40%
7 +77% (Peril) 50% (Fort/Tyr)
8 +95% 61%
9 +114% 72%
10 +136% (Tyr/Fort) 84% (Tyr/Fort)
11 +159% 102%
12 +185% (Guile) 122% (Guile)
13 +214% +144%
14 +245% +169%
15 +280% +195%

We will also be decoupling this achievement from the system that allows players to set a “floor” for their high-level keystones. Instead, once a player has finished all eight seasonal dungeons at Mythic 12 within the timer, their keystone will no longer automatically delevel below 12; once a player has timed all dungeons at Mythic 13, the new floor will be 13; and so on for all key levels at or above 12.

This was a nice addition by adding “Floors” post-progression with +12 and up.

Source:

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24174877
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/mythic-plus-dungeons/the-war-within-season-1/overview

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This change will make gearing alts to heroi gear so much better.

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Yo these are the changes casuals needed

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cool, hopefully this encourages people to stick with m+ longer :slight_smile:

edit: wait, i forgot, i’m supposed to be angry about this. blah blah something about casuals. i’m an elitist! etc.

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12s seem kinda free now lol

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Probably a dumb question, but… what’s the benefit of doing keys higher than 10, besides a few more gilded crests? Is it just for the challenge?

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They are adding a mount for 3k rating in s2.

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3k io and non depleting keys gonna be a cinch for casuals like me who top out at 2800

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Fun. More gameplay loop that isnt “fall asleep at your keyboard” levels of easy for the individual

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The mythic+ nerfbat is quite heavy.

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I honestly just did 10s for portals and stopped cuz no reason to push above

With the changes it just kinda pushes mythics harder cuz how fast you’ll be able to cap gilded n stuff with higher keys giving more

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They were before TWW too, so what’s the problem?

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Even more so with them leaving the current level of crests per dungeon (amd failed ones) and enchanted crests for crafted gear staying at 60 instead of 90

Fully intended on taking a break half way through this season but looking a lot like a quarter of the way through now

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I’ve been on break since early December due to completing what I wanted, classic fresh, and just RL being busy and not having a lot of time. I’ve even been off the forums.

It looks like season 2 will be over in a few weeks for tangible rewards, which I guess is why they are adding a mount for a higher rating?

The nerfs/changes are pretty substantial.

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Yup. As another poster said: DF Season 3: The Sequel

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Keep in mind they said they tuned up m0 so while it’s less of a jump per key, the base is higher than now.

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They adjusted for a 3ilvl, 1 upgrade tracks worth, of an increase.

Hardly offsets the rest of the nerfs

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+2 for hero vault = HELLO ALTS

Back to doing 1 key per week just to get vaults for alts lol

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If I’m reading this correctly, 2850 mount looks easier.

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You need 3k for it now but that will be easier than s1 3k, by how much remains to be seen.