I mean, I completed a few +4-5-6 dungeons this week and I must admit that they were a challenge for me. But the rewards are absolute garbage. The loot at the end of the dungeon was bad (low item level), and the vault unlock is worst then a solo content that takes 10 minutes to complete with no sounds and requiring barely any attention. This feels so odd?
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It’s a good change I think. I feel more compelled to do raids, delves, AND M+ than I would have in recent years. Most recent xpacs you could just M+ log and gear up so much faster than anything else, other activities just felt like fluff.
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Devs clearly want more solo content and have thus made group content less rewarding. Also the solo content is much easier to do in a group.
Yeah I get that, but now m+ feels very unrewarding for the amount of efforts we put into it, doesn’t it?
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No, because you can still build up to hero drops and myth vaults. I’d imagine it would be unrewarding if you’re hard stuck at +5 for the season I guess.
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Delves give out Hero track at the maximum, dungeons give out Myth. Which is worse?
No, M+ is fine.
It was week ONE of M+, wanted mythic gear with perfect rolls already ?
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M+ rewards is fine. Delves rewards is too high. That’s the problem, not M+.
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We won’t know without stats how this season will go but I hope they make good changes for s2. Revert the tank nerfs for crying out loud
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Wow let’s go straight to extremes lol. It will teach me to attempt a civil discussion on the forums, good reminder of what this community is.
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I finally did a 0 last night and it reminded me of why I’m enjoying delves so much. The hunter was always dead, the tank was thankfully patient and informative, but overall dying a lot because we were essentially 4 manning the whole thing wasn’t all that exciting.
Has very little to do with the rewards and everything to do with only having myself and my wife to rely on and knowing that we can and will get the job done.
Great gear from delves is not an issue. Spoken like someone who doesn’t want to do delves. Thats fine, but leave them alone for those who do.
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I completed Tier 8 Delves for the Vault first before I touched M+. I never touched Raid becoz its loots is too low in ilevel. That was FORCED to do Delves. Why? How can I be competitive to be chosen on Dungeon Finder if my gear sucks?
I run M+ for cosmetics/mount, and of course, trinkets (that I probably won’t win in raid until week 38x793489324). Everything else is just a bonus.
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Yeah I’ve been pretty consistent about getting the KSM mount since DF started so I intend to do the same this season eventually.
There just isn’t any rush though. I’m having much more fun in delves and the longer I spend in them the easier KSM will be down the road.
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it takes time to gear up . people are so impatient these days .
That’s why I recommend Blizz to TIMEGATE Tier 8 Delves on succeeding Seasons. Maintain its high ilevel loot but Timegate it. Wait for us to reach M+8 first then unlock it.
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Tbh it’s been refreshing not having to deal with leavers and players in general in M+. I get that enough in raids. I been personally really enjoying doing delves with my healer friend. We been enjoying them and easily is my favorite part of the war within.
I think people forget that even though we can run +8 delves or higher as much as we want, if we don’t have keys, we get nothing. My pally ran out of keys yesterday after hitting 80 on friday and I didn’t get much over the 6 keys I managed to get vs the BT run I did that night. My hunter stopped at 6 bountifuls this week because I don’t want to be too greedy and keep getting the same gear over and over.
One thing about M+ there are better trinkets, gear, and weapons you can aim for. You can’t do that with delves. And with mythic plus, you can run mythics over and over. and still get gear. And if you don’t after so many runs, well RNG sucks.
M+ is still better than delves.