First of all I wanna start by saying I love this game and that’s the reason why I post about this cause I care. I’m gonna talk about my xp, I’m in that group of players that push to 3k io with the class that I want and get gated beyond that cuz when you want to push higher you get into meta spec’s territory, I play a WW and I would say that class it’s high mid tier that’s not that bad and if you keep in mind that I’ve been playing it for so long that makes it tier A in M+ which is the content I spend the most amount of time, that said after I pushed 3k io within 2 weeks I’ve been since 2 h signing up for groups non stop with no luck, and I when I get picked once every hour, something happens cuz it does on high keys, either tank overpulls, someone don’t int and dies, etc, instantly everybody leaves, and now I’m here after 2 h signing only to get 7- 10 mins of actually gameplay, then you say I’ll put my key and simply push it, then again you find yourself in this situation that most of the good players don’t sign up to your key cuz you are not a meta spec and that happens, then you try your key might push might not and you are left with a resil 12 and have to push that to 13 and then to 14 to get io, the thing is that I spend 80% of my time applying to keys like it’s a work application, and 20 % actually playing the content and in that 20% are keys pushed, keys finished within 5 mins and back to Dornogal.
Now solutions that I could think of from my point of view
Add a solo q system like the PVP has and that way even if you are a dps and your que time it’s 20-30 mins I guarantee you will play the game more often and remove the invite meta specs only from the game, I mean if you have a stack of 5 players Gratz to you, if you play alone it’s a huge W, if you want to still get the group that you want the regular LFG will still be there for you to pick the exact classes you want, that’s my opinion and the idea that I bring to the table, plz looking forward to read feedback
Solo queue has worked for every other game out there.
But for some reason there are people that seem to think m+ is a unicorn that couldnt possibly work with a queue system.
I dont engage with M+ because i refuse to play the group finder mini-game. Its just such a time sink.
“I dont want to risk getting an Aug Evoker in my group!” Some may say as an example this season. But then they also expect Aug Evokers to sit there applying to groups and being denied for half an hour.
If not that you have to but I would like to know why you think that, just looking for feedback and maybe I’ll realize that I’m the only one that sees it that way
i dont want to roll the dice for battle res / lust / team comp and cooldowns that might help the team.
you can currently do this things if youre forming a group.
i cant imagine running some dungeons without slappy hands or an aoe silence from a moonkin. even moreso for things like dispels enrage cleanse and other stuff thats situational but can help a run immensely.
when the game can make a system that keeps track of all of this? sure give me m+ lfg
until then? no thanks.
there are far too many variables besides an arbitrary number besides your name . that just gets me to look at you. then theres everything else.
The queue, for pve content, has always catered to the lowest common denominator. It just is what it is. People LOST THEIR MINDS when cata heroics were difficult and in the queue. They eventually got nerfed. If it’s in the queue, it should be able to be completed by anyone that queues up.
That’s how it’s always been. Not saying it couldn’t change because things in wow change all the time. I think you underestimate the amount of backlash it would get from players. “Blizzard why did you put me in a +7 with the WORST classes/specs in the game, of course it failed FIX IT!!!11!!1!” I think you’d see so much of that.
Thats to not mention that fine, for the sake of me getting into keys I’ll play whatever class it’s op even if I’ve never played it before and I’ll troll most of keys at the beginning till I learn, let’s say Unh DK, now what , do 30+ + 6 to get hero, then start pushing and by that time they drop a mid tier patch like 11.5 and say hey let’s drop a 15% nerf on this Unh spec and now you won’t get invited cuz you are a washed up class, for me change tuning every 2 months it’s just a way for them to keep you engage chasing the meta spec and dumping absolutely insane hours into the game
Most of games makes the content replayable by letting you play it again once you have finish or reached a certain point in the game, I think more ppl would not drop the game at 3k or 2k if not were for the LFG system or because it’s brutal to farm 600 of last 2 crests and 3k + Valorstones, just to start playing M+ beyond + 10, someone plz tell me in what way could hurt the game, if you could easily gear up an alt and replay the game on a diff spec, example, keys higher than 12 mid chance to drop hero warbound tier of the type armor you have your toons on your warband, idk something like that
I think I’d rather have a group with a vague idea of what they’re doing over a group of people who barely clear the ilvl check and may very well have no idea what they’re doing.
I’m not much of an M+ fellow myself, but I sure wouldn’t even touch it if it was random queues.
There is too much needed for keys.
Example brez and lust.
While it would be fun it also isnt sustainable.
People wouldnt que up either
DPS qs woukd be 2-3 hrs
Healer and tanks woukd avoid the que and just make own groups as most people quing woulsnt be invited due to lack of skill. (Not interrupting, Ccing, mechanics, etc)
Just to mant factors. Plus there would need to add a penalty for failure like lose of IO which would stop people from quing.
Also to avoid the only meta specs thing make your own groups. Ive never had this issue playing off meta but if you are just make your own group takes like 3 minutes
What makes you think it’ll be 20-30 minutes and not, let’s say… 5 hours? Why would tanks and healers who gets into groups a lot easier give up their priviligies by using a queue?
it will fail
it will be a disaster
the crowd who is drawn to solo queues has proven that they don’t tolerate difficulty/failure
it will result in the content being nerfed
If you carry jumper cables and drums you’ve always got a battle rez and lust. There’s no excuse for not having brez and lust, no matter what your comp is.