M+ key generation is broken

There is no mathematical possibility to get narcotic wake, siege, and mists keys as often as they are generated. Please fix whatever it is that’s broken so we can do something besides the same couple of dungeons for m+

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How are you getting this data?

Could it just be the selection bias of only certain keys being listed in LFG at a time?

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on raiderio, mists has 800k runs while ara has 524k, and city of threads 350k. Seems busted to me.

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This is terrible!

We need folks suffering in Siege of Boralus ASAP!

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Mists has a cool trinket, why wouldn’t people try to run that more often?

People also run keys at the same or higher level they have in their bags so they can swap their key at the end of the dungeon for something better.

Like if I was to get Grim this week I would 100% not run it and try to swap it out.

I have a 7 SoB in my bags, it can stay there until I swap it out.

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That’s just selection bias at work.

Ara-Kara has a trinket that people want.

Mists both has a trinket people want, and is easy.

City of threads has neither benefit going for it.

All that data shows is that people run M+ to get loot, which we already knew.

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ive had 1 ara and 1 cot for every 5 necrotic wake/siege ea. Ive yet to roll a GB in 30 runs.

I don’t use LFG, this is going off my own runs within my key group.
This season I have done
Ara- 7 times
CoT- 3 times
SV- 5 times
GB- 6 times
Dawn- 7 times
NW- 10 times
Mists- 16 times
Siege- 10 times
Yesterday our group had all 5 of us holding NW keys after rerolling them the day before to try and get something that wasn’t mists because we all had mists and siege at that time and wanted to do something different.

Right, but the point I’m making is that keys that are perceived to be harder and don’t drop particularly valuable items are more likely to be re-rolled at the end of dungeon panda.

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This sounds so much more fun than the necrotic wake we got.

my key seems to roll NW, siege, and mists a lot, dawnbreaker fairly often, the spider dungeons rarely, and I think I’ve only held a stonevault key once.

All anecdotal evidence, and like someone above pointed out, people run more mists because it’s easy

but there was a reddit thread with enough people saying similar things to make it seem like more than just misinterpreting the data.

That’s not the point of the post because I am entirely excluding dungeon finder keys and talking about my own keys and the ones in my group. The casters in our group got their trinkets from NW a while ago, we aren’t trying to run that place for anything other than if that’s the only option we have because somehow we end up with everyone always having the same keys.

I noticed the same thing. For some reason the three same keys seem to spawn for low key levels. Its weird

Players are probably rerolling a “bad” key to do a good key.

Why kill yourself in a Grim Batol when you can change it to a Mists.

I don’t think you have read what this thread was about. Not a single thing has to deal with publicly listed dungeon finder keys