what do we think in terms of difficulty is harder, pushing m+ title or 2400+ in pvp?
pvp no question.
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why do you think that?
only thing holding you back in pve is gear and your own skill, pvp is all that plus other players. pvp will always be harder. pve in wow is also much easier than most mmorpgs.
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pve in wow is also much easier than most mmorpgs. in comparison to what?
Other MMORPGS?.. not sure what you’re asking exactly.
what other pve mmos lmao, theres like maybe 2 in the market with any comparable and even then wows mythic raiding is harder than just about everything except for korean lost ark.
SWTOR, FF, even ESO has harder pve then wow lol and what do you mean mythic raiding is harder? They top raiding guild couldn’t even do normal FF raids lol wow pve is a joke, and it’s made even easier with all the addons literally telling you what to do.
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what do you mean by m+ title? the r1 title? or like 3k or 2500 or 2k? I think glad is harder than all these except m+ r1, that requires serious dedication
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oh 2400 in pvp much easier imo
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the .1% title for m+ 3k is just 1800
i agree, but idk why people think 2400 is harder, i got 2400 in 4 days of qing, but doing +19s feels borderline impossible.
3k m+ probably is closer to ~2200 in pvp rn. but being top .1% in anything is going to be incredibly hard
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have you seen what not nerfed wow mythic raiding looks like? queen ansurek is actually one of the hardest encounters of any game ever.
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What makes it “hard” exactly?
2400 in shuffle is like what M+ mount is (or was if it doesnt exist anymore)
like pugging +8s-10s
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This is like asking whats harder 2400 or getting r1 in 3s?
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PvP will always be harder and it’s never getting easier.
r1 keys >>>>> 2400 in shuff >>>>> 2400 in blitz
I think it depends on the player. Some of the best players I’ve raided with in the past were absolutely horrendous at pvp. Also back in I wanna say cata, the best pvper on our server tried to transition to raiding, so one of the best guilds took him in and it turned out he was terrible at that aspect of wow
Then there is class/spec choice. 2400 with a ret/arms is probably equivalent to the skill level of an 1900 destro warlock. Also, enhance is GREAT for M+ while being one of the worst melee for pvp.
I would agree with you but to me, and this is just me, m+ just seems like artificial difficulty. Mobs just have more health and do more damage. Kick a guy, and then aoe like crazy, maybe some boss mechanics.