Probably only need 1. (You need other four people to loot only one item.)
thats the part i cant confirm though. it might force two pieces to the remaining party regardless
Or do this. Get 99%. Kill last boss. Everyone but tank leave. Tank kills couple mobs to hit 100%. Loots chest. See if the other four get loot. Reduces time to test the hypothesis - more efficient test.
Have a well geared blood, Prot pal or VDH do this. (Ideally tyrannical for even more ease)
well that adds another variable im not sure of. i can only vouch for leaving runs that definitely do not alreayd have the last boss dead
It will not do that.
Somewhere along the way there was a blue post that indicated that the calculation of who would get loot from an M+ was determined as soon as the key started. Of course I canāt find anything more recent than 2009 on the subject on blue tracker nowā¦
True, but the dungeon wasnāt complete in the scenario I gave either. But youāre right, adds another variable.
That makes the most sense to me from a programming standpoint. The game takes a snapshot of your talents, your gear, your party comp, and locks it to a unique instance.
theres no question that i used to get loot even if i left. dozens of times this happened in my wow career. but they changed sometihng in dragonflight and i havent gotten a single piece the whole expansion for keys ive left. ive gotten plenty key completion notifications for keys that were still completed after i left during dragonflight, but not a single piece of gold or an item in the mailbox
yes and no, becaues you can change loot spec up to a certain point and it recognizes it.
Not trying to be contrarian, youāve got more experience than me, but in my mind, if the game registers you getting completion credit, I canāt fathom why you also wouldnāt get added to the ārollsā for loot.
Yeah, Iāve changed loot spec mid dungeon and during last boss fight and it registered. But I think the way that programming logic works is more of a series of checks
- Was player at start? Yes, electioneering for loot
- Was dungeon completed? Yes
- Was loot awarded to player? Yes
- What is the loot spec of player?
- What is the difficulty level of the dungeon?
- Was the dungeon times? (So on so forth)
Thus, as long as the loot spec is set to before you open the chest, it seems plausible that loot spec can be changed.
yeah im not claiming to understand it or be able to explain it. but why wont anyone just test it with me and save me a couple hundred k lol
Cause no longer present in instance, and explicitly changed not to. (But if weāre talking about 4 people looting only one item, that still happens.)
Yeah I have no idea because I donāt believe Iāve left any key that didnāt fall apart in Dragonflight. I find it very unlikely the rule is that you get no loot for merely not being in the group when the last enemy died; such a system would be abused by leaders kicking folks right at the end to increase their chances. But I could see there being a minimum amount of the key required to get loot or have the logic tied to if you actively left group (rather than being kicked).
One thing I will say is that I have finished keys in Dragonflight with someone having left and us getting fewer items. Perhaps the game just swallows the item that would have gone to that person? I donāt think Blizzard bean counters would complain that fewer items were handed out per run in a situation where most groups wonāt be able too confirm what happenedā¦
That assumes the game checks for that. I hypothesize that it does not otherwise the programmers would have to have a continuously running ācheckā to ensure players who get dcād can come back and still be eligible.
Because the game doesnāt necessarily require each player to click on chest to run the āeligibility programā. If you leave without opening the chest - unless this was changed, too - you can still get loot.
You have to change your loot spec before the key is completed (whether killing the last boss or completing enemy forces). If you forgot to switch before the last thing died, you wonāt be able to switch before opening the chest (or rather, any loot you win will have already been determined based on the loot spec you had when the last thing died).
Interesting. I assumed it was before opening the chest. Iāll ask because Iām curious: have you tried this?
this is correct
yeah, you get a strike in my boosting communities if you forget to change loot spec. people have tried this many times lol
Yes, never on purpose though. Iāve had more than one occasion where I ran a dungeon for a healing trinket only to loot an agility polearm because of having my loot spec set to feral from raid the previous night.
Iām tracking. Iām just curious if you deliberately tried switching loot spec after dungeon was completed but before you activated the chest.
I see Still has already provided more input. Nvm!
I have after realizing my mistake, but it never changed the outcome.