Just because someone else gets something it does not mean it was at others expense. Just because mythic raiders got a special item, does not mean it cost you anything. You lost nothing for them to get it.
It makes the professions better because it gives professions a way to sell current content equivalent gear. I run my raids and my mythics, I craft a piece of gear and now you have the option to buy said piece of gear.
You seem salty that you can’t have access to everything. It’s almost as if you think you deserve access to things that you didn’t earn.
Its in no way time gating, m+ is spammable.
LFR is a glorified trailer cinematic for the raid. lol
So, raiders can sell raid gear to other raiders. Still not seeing the improvement for the majority of players…you know, the ones not playing World of Raidcraft.
The majority of players aren’t mythic raiders, you’re kidding yourself if you say the majority of players don’t raid.
ANYONE can buy the BoE gear, not just raiders. Why would you even think that BoE gear would be available only to raiders? Are the BoE’s that drop from trash in the current trash only able to be equipped by raiders?
It’s BIND ON EQUIP, not BIND ON EQUIP BY RAIDERS.
The majority certainly don’t raid heroic or higher, which is where these proposed patterns would drop. And I suppose whether or not the majority raids depends on if you include LFR as raiding.
LFR doesn’t drop normal level gear, so its clear blizzard doesn’t see it as equal with normal raiding. I don’t care if mats drop there or not because if they do blizz will just make the patterns require that many more, but lets not start this discussion about how lfr players know what blizzards thinking by drawing generous conclusions.
We aren’t talking about whether LFR is considering raiding by the community or not. We talking about LFR being consider content, which is by Blizzard.
Still not seeing how this improves professions. I do see how it gives raiders more, though. Or is selling carries not enough and now you need the income from selling gear, as well?
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Its the raid, people do it. It isn’t raiding in the same sense as a group doing it together, but its there and it draws a big audience. There’s plenty of people who pug raids that aren’t in raiding guilds also.
Its content by default, it isn’t possible to have a sensible argument to the contrary. I’m not sure what your point is.
It was stated that only players who do content should get the rewards. Doing LFR is doing content.
Yes, LFR is the raid, yes, lots of people see the raid that way. But those players aren’t in the exclusive group that the OP wants getting these “improved” professions.
So, my point stands: the majority of players get no benefit from these so-called improvements to professions.
As I replied to someone else, it doesn’t matter if mats drop in LFR or not. If they do, the patterns will just cost more mats to stop being from being able to craft a ton of them.
what’s more likely to happen is a recipe that requires a specific ingredient, and some other recipe that has a “chance” to proc that ingredient at the cost of lots of mats and a low proc rate or a very long cd. Its how its been done before.
Are you even reading what the OP proposed? He wants the patterns to be exclusive to heroic and mythic raiders. So no, it won’t matter if the mats drop in LFR because LFR and normal raiders won’t be able to get the patterns anyway.
Here, let me quote it again for you:
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There have been plenty of effective ways to make professions useful, my favorites are
- WoD crafted legendaries were awesome
- gems in all sockets
- chants for all slots
- belt buckles
Frankly the reasons profession suck now is because Bliz intended to remove that gaming style from the live game. Mission accomplished.
So there should never be exclusive content in anything?
Did I say that my idea was the only solution that could be implemented and couldn’t be a part of a larger solution?
It really does sound like you’re wanting access to everything but you don’t want to have to put in any effort for that access.
The current 410, 425 and 440 crafted items from professions are not BoE and they still require the crafter to raid. You can’t even craft those for yourself because you’re unable to raid current content.
With my idea you would at least be able to buy the crafted item after the raider has ran the content and then crafted it. So overall now you have access to more raider level gear. Yet you still complain.
Seriously, are you just wanting gear handed out to everyone?
That would do the opposite of making them ‘great again’. All this would do is reward people doing this content more heavily.
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