Been reading a few post on this forum and it all goes the same way: Nobody invite me to this level of key or we should change M+ so there is no more timer 0-10 or even more silly things.
Here I have a question for yall: Where did you get this entitlement?
If you feel stuck at a certain key level instead of crying about the community not inviting you or that you always feel like everything is too rushed and you can’t play the game the way YOU want, have you ever questioned yourself that maybe YOU are the problem?
The best post I read was about a guy complaining that he’s 510 ILV but can’t get into +7 and he was frustrated because naturally he felt like because his gears could not get upgraded unless he did +7 it meant that is what he should be trying to farm.
Small advice for everyone here in the same situation:There will come a time where you will reach your skill ceiling and it has nothing to do with gears or the tunning of the content.
M+ is a ladder that keep increasing the % of damage dealt to you every level and eventually if you keep playing poorly you will get punished for it! lets say the Cavern seekers in uldaman before third boss for exemple: They have an abilitiy called Sonic burst that isn’t too scary when you overgear the content that you are in but when you move to higher levels of keys this ability can wipe out the whole group if not interrupted properly.
Many players go into M+ and just expect to keep climbing until they can get max gears without ever trying to LEARN about what to do in thoses dungeons, finishing the key with no interrupts and being bottom dps because they spent the whole key on the floor.
To conclude if you ever find yourself stuck in a situation when it comes to M+ BEFORE you come complain here how about you take a look at yourself. Try IMPROVE your Dps Rotation or your knowledge of the dungeon you are having trouble with or even clean up your interface so that you can keep track of the important stuff in a better way? Also PERSONAL MITIGATION IS A THING when you see that boss doing a BIG AOE that chunk the whole group.
Nobody is owed anything. and nobody want someone in their group that they think will be a burden you included if you were in their shoes.
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Personal experience here.
As a dps, you are applying with sometimes 50 others also applying.
Not getting picked is inevitable, usually key holders want a specific slot, or a quick run, not a carry or help you get score run, so just keep applying or run your own key.
I managed portals, mounts and titles pugging every season and sometimes there was 100 invites declined lol… whoopty dooodee …
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I am glad i only play pvp. I can just queue up for solo ranked bg’s or shuffle and just start playing the game rather then waiting forever to get accepted into a group. And if i am playing an off meta spec i still am guaranteed to get a group through the lfg rather then just having people not pick me because i am playing a weak spec.
Having to form partys yourself is such an old and stupid way of doing things, everything should be auto queueable, just like pvp.
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‘‘I am glad I play pvp’’ good for you how is that HOUR Queued for shuffle cause pvp is dead lol? also if you dont want to form groups by yourself play LFR and Heroic dungeon Finder. just like arena 2s/3s you have to make your groups for higher content!
with all the tanks and healers quitting, now’s the time to prove yourselves worthy of faster invites by taking up one of those roles 
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I would rather wait an hour for a guaranteed group then not get a group at all because i am playing the “wrong” spec. Game would be better if you could solo queue everything from pve to pvp.
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I get that you’re trolling but this wasn’t even good bait.
I would also add that it is important to remember that M+ is an activity where you can fail a key. But that only means that you couldn’t complete it, not that you didn’t complete it in time.
Keys are run for a myriad of different reasons, one of them is gear, another one is score, and yet another one is to push for score. But a key only truly fails if you cannot complete it. And that’s fine. That will happen. To your key, and others. You’ll also sometimes be able to complete it, but not time it, and that’s fine as well.
M+ is, as an activity, meant for you to say “Well that happened… let’s go again!”
So embody that in your keys, don’t take it too seriously but also don’t grief folks. Because keys will fail, keys won’t get timed, and folks (including yourself) can and will leave keys. All of these things are fine. It is just a case of accepting it and go again, whether right there and then or later. But the point is that stuff will happen, ya’ gotta accept it and just enjoy the totality of the experience of running keys. There will be bad groups and some folks who do infuriating things you have no idea what happened.
Just have fun and accept these things.
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It’s always been an uphill battle as a DPS, from the very start.
I still remember trying to claw my way around other DPS trying to get into groups for raids, spamming achieves and gearscore like no tomorrow.
And eventually if you persist, you’ll get your foot in that door and earn the gear/achieves and get invites on the regular because you’ve ‘made it’.
The initial hump is hard and many just give up there, or don’t try hard enough.
You get the effort you put in- if you give up, you’re simply not getting those rewards.
Yeah, it’s harder for DPS than other roles, but that comes with the territory of having the least responsibility.
Guess you didnt understand my msg: PVP system reflect PVE, Both have solo Q content Both have the abilities to make groups for higher content. also this isnt a Thread about pvp so go eslewhere with that.
Pve would be better if it worked like pvp. Make all raids and all M+ findable through the auto lfg. It would get rid of gatekeepers like you.
I love queueable content, but I’d be lying if it didn’t have an effect on the social scene of this game.
You’re just a nameless insert class here once a queue system is implemented.
Also, get ready to see some very bad players who will start doing the content that really shouldn’t be there, because it’s become queueable.
The disparities in player skill in this game leave me astounded sometimes.
It’s gonna get toxic, more than just signing up for groups. Folks are gonna be calling each other out and disbanding, etc.
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Did you forget you still have to manually form groups for half of PvP content?
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LOL how am I a gatekeeper, where did you get this idea from ? I always help people , I always explain mecanics when people keep failling them and never ever get toxic cause soembody failed something unlike alot of people so, that is a bit unfair to be called like that.
Apparently that’s considered toxic to people that refuse to learn and want to be carried lol.
I’ve had keys fail because of repeated deaths and blatantly ignoring mechanics. Those players shouldn’t be in M+.
You gotta do the dance if you wanna succeed.
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How can he gatekeep you?
Literally hundreds of groups of all kinds (pvp warmode included) listed 24/7.
The only “gatekeep” is the “my friend of misery” who refuses to use the group finder tool.
More often then not the people failing at something are the people that are quick to point fingers at everything esle but themself for their failliures. and it shows!
Lol, no. This is MY game. You will assimilate or be eternally cursed. Why would you even suggest such a thing?!
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I don’t think those are mutually exclusive. Plenty of apathy going around even before queues were introduced.