My understanding is some speed bumps promote creative workarounds. My guess is the intended goal of affixes create replay-ability by not allowing for a cookie cutter approach to every week and every dungeon. This is great for longevity.
However, they have grown quite tiresome imo. We need change! They are doable, sure. But my major gripe or sore point is that there is no positive to any affix. All of them are deeply rooted to annoy you, displace you, change your play style and just flat out piss you off. There is no benefit to playing well with them. (Besides the obvious: not make your healer rage at you)
the only exception to this is our seasonal affix which in my opinion is so lackluster. Keep the buff longer is something that theoretically seems cool, but in practice it’s such a minuscule gain that it’s really not worth it. People dump it insta cause of the other potential overlaps.
I beg for you to think outside the box and come up with some ideas that would stick to a curse/kiss format. Something that feels good but creates challenges.
Zombies in BFA was cool. Huge numbers and a boon, things like this are cool. Quaking is nothing but obnoxious and unfun. Doable sure, with ease. But fun? Heck no.
Maybe we can come up with some good ideas to present that can maybe make it into the game. Sadly I don’t have much suggestion that front, maybe y’all do?
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quaking does suck, i agree. shouldn’t be happening on boss fights imo.
i’ve seen what happens on Hyrja with my own eyes 
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Remove all affixes. Key level go up, mob hp and damage go up. On the casual end affixes are awful experiences that gatekeep even attempting m+. On the hardcore end affixes are all completely trivial through massive player skill. Neither side benefits from having them.
A case can be made for the seasonal affixes being good, but thundering is trash so…
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Interesting take but I think people would get bored if it’s the same every dungeon with no affixes.
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Maybe, but I’m not those people.
I’m actually closer to the high end than the low end of the power spectrum, but the complaints that dungeons are bloated with far too many mechanics, interrupts, untelegraphed frontals, death swirls, on top of thundering and quaking this week are absolutely legitimate. The dungeons are challenging enough at a high key level regardless of the presence of affixes so my general thought is remove then.
On the lower end, more people may be willing to try m+ knowing its just m0 with more stats.
On the high end, they just push to 30 instrad of 27. No differences in experience there.
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Yes, fun but challenging is apparently something Blizz does not understand. Most of their stuff is developed to just mess with the player, it’s absolutely obnoxious and an old design philosophy that is out-of-date & a contributing factor to the game’s decline.
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I can agree with that. Not respecting the players time is the reason why my crew has been on break for a long while. In addition to what you said.
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I definitely agree. Blizzard needs to take a good look into the affixes and their role in dungeons. It is time to revamp the affixes, maybe tweak the entire system. Affixes were added to bring a certain level of difficulty and challenge to dungeons but as the dungeons became more and more complex and dangerous, the challenge that affixes brought has increased to a level that is no longer enjoyable for some people, myself included, even at lower key levels. Mythic Plus used to be my favorite thing in this game but this season has changed that and I am just not enjoying it anymore.
It isn’t because of how difficult the dungeons are but my complaints are the overwhelming amount of mechanics combined with affixes scenarios that just plainly feel unfair and not fun to overcome. Quaking + boss mechanics that force the party to stack is just utter crap. Combine that with Thundering and I become ready to uninstall. I want to love Mythic Plus again but I simply can’t while things are currently in this state.
There are better ways to make affixes engaging for players. Sure, they are meant to increase the challenge of a dungeon but that shouldn’t be their only role. The kiss/curse affixes are loved by the community and it just baffles me how Blizz doesn’t look into that further. You can have kiss/curse affixes outside of seasonal affixes. They could change up how you approach a dungeon which is meant to be the entire reason of affixes to begin with. You could even make it so that the 2 affixes that are added at level 4 and level 7 be one negative affix and one positive affix.
Bottom line - It is time to revamp the affixes. We have had a lot of the same ones since legion. I am just so over them now. If blizz is going to increase the baseline difficulty of dungeons then the affixes need to be looked at again because right now, they are creating unfair combos of mechanics + affixes and every other week, they have to hotfix some negative interaction like removing quaking from certain parts of a boss fight.
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They need to get rid of all dance dance affixes.
Or rename the game, “Run out of Circles”
Just so tired of running out of circles.
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We need to add affixes that do more than just create additional burdens for healers and a slight inconvenience for everyone else.
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This season has a lot of stack mechanics with bosses and it’s make quaking very frustrating to manage in those scenarios. Mostly though, for a melee dps this week is perfectly manageable.
The bit thing that sticks out to me is that my healer has all but lost his mind between quaking cancel casts/interrupts/crazy overlaps with all sorts of unavoidable damage going out, getting chased by spitefuls (despite us helping), and often having to wait to drink.
I think the root of both affixes are fine, but I’d rework them, especially now that we’re out of place Spiteful feels extremely out of place.
If I had any first recommendation, it’s that I typically put “idea stuff” on the PTR forum in hopes its less washed away, where in GD that’s easy to happen with 2/3 of the threads being troll threads. I’ve actually considered starting one myself this week.
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What we need is more giant tornados and lightning affixes. With more flashy animations and huge sounds and giant screen shaking explosions. When I run mythic plus I want it to be a non stop dubstep music video turned up to 11
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Agreed, I don’t want to be the guy complaining about afix but quake has caused several deaths where the group had to stack on boss mechanics or die to the mechanic. Eg, SBG and HoV.
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Most affixes have been nerfed into the ground, remember the Motherlode with Teeming & Old school bolstering with Reaping on fortified???
I’d be happy with just a seasonal affix. I think the boring aspect is being addressed with the multi-season dungeon rotation.
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i want actual fun affixes
quaking is genuinely not enjoyable, its not horrible but not enjoyable when paired with Thundering, just has certain rng moment where i 100% cannot avoid the mechanic and it causes us to wipe. not fun.
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Here’s my take -
Each season should have only two affixes. Both “seasonal”. Each week we alternate between the two.
Next season WoW is going to have a fire and ice theme. To match, one week we could have a Scorching affix, and the other week a Chilling affix. You get IO for each week. No more cringe quake overlaps, no more 25 explosives. No more bolstering birds, just a unique challenge that week, with two of these challenges per season.
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Quaking is the only one that’s problematic. Get rid of it. Now.
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I think all affixes need to be reworked to make the player more powerful. You get a haste buff for getting an explosive, or a aoe affect on mobs when you stack volcanic, or standing in sanguin gives you damage reduction. Something like that. I’m tired of this game feeling like it’s constantly trying to punish me rather than reward me. It’s not fun anymore.
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I prefer how Destiny handles Affixes for their version of M+. Most are Kiss/Curse mechanics which make you change the way you play but in a fun way.
The base Affixes in WOW are just annoying and/or tedious. They only exist to make players move or to stop casting/attacking. It feels like area denial and forced movement are the only tools Blizz has in their kit. It’s lazy and boring.
How about more Affixes like Encrypted? Letting players choose what effect to get was fun and opened up different strats.
How about adding Kiss effects to the current Affixes? Cooldown reduction, Resource reduction, etc.
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