With the war campaign at its end, ending the fourth war with the out come of Sylvanas fleeing and the rebels taking control of the Horde with the help of the now some what teamed up Alliance, a good many Sylvanas fans are kind of unhappy.
My question is, what did you really think Blizzard was going to do and how would they implement that in game?
Had Sylvanas achieved her goal, developers would have to either delete everyone’s Alliance characters or remake everyone as Undead severing her. I am pretty sure this goes without saying WoW’s subs would actually plummet and this game would go free to play in a matter of weeks. Is that what you wanted? Or did you want the same story to go on forever with the unending, unchanging conflict with no sides being able to claim victory?
After watching the latest cinematic I am interested in knowing how anyone else would do it, the same question can be applied to Alliance that do not want us working with the Horde.
I was hoping that we’d at least find out what her motivation is instead of just getting another “they’ll see!”
What I was hoping for was that she’d have an actual justification, that Saurfang would be defeated, and the Horde would have to come back together for whatever justification there was. Because Sylvanas may be mean, but she’d actually be doing what was necessary to achieve this necessary goal.
In the end, I was hoping that it would end with a compelling reason to continue the faction war as well as revealing what this big plan of hers is.
I think people miss understand what Sly said about everyone being nothing. In a sense she is correct. The factions are nothing in the grand scheme of the power struggle that the living on azeroth dont see. She can see what is going on and I believe she is frustrated with the petty fighting over material things when our existence is what is at stake. To be fair I personally am neutral imo about her but I think people are too quick to jump on the band wagon of hate just like in the real world.
I honestly wasn’t sure, but I knew she wouldn’t be a raid boss, at least not this expansion. I hope they don’t make her a raid boss. She wants to overcome Death, she probably will end up being Death.
I’m curious to see what her entire plan has to do, cause she’s not giving a crap about anyone at all, she never has, but I’d like to see her achieve it. I don’t think she wants to personally harm others in trying to overcome Death but she also doesn’t care if they get harmed. If that doesn’t sound right I’m sorry, its hard to explain my thought on that rofl
Well when you had the option to come up it said you’d get a toy for helping Saurfang, but you’d still get a reward with Sylvanas. As my entire guild went and helped Saurfang, I decided to stick with Sylvanas but I haven’t gotten anything lol. Was still cool to see the other side.
I don’t think any loyalist expected Sylvanas to triumph over the Alliance long term, but supported her in the hopes of at least seeing a short term victory like a Siege Of Stormwind style of raid or even the death of a major Alliance faction leader: two things many in the Horde have said they would like to see.
What I personally expected from the loyalist perspective was, as others have already said in this thread, to find out Sylvanas’s goals and her exact motivations. It’s kind of accepted by a vocal part of the fan base that she is just insane or just looking to be the next Lich king, but the motivation of ‘she is just crazy’ seemed way too lazy and the goal of becoming the thing she hated the most seemed absolutely perverse and out of character for her.
I wanted her to have a reason that made sense to HER, even if it wouldn’t make sense to anyone else, for the choices she had made. There may yet still be such a pay off, which is why I am still a Sylvanas loyalist. Thus far she has neither done nor said anything that would make me turn against her.
Though as for the ‘peace’ between the factions, yeah, I am not happy about that. It seems artificial and unearned, and I have to agree with Sylvanas: savor it while you can. It won’t last.
We did get her reason. She serves Death and brought as many to her master as possible. Other than servitude, we have yet to see what her side of the bargain is. She has been making all sorts of deals to avoid death, we’ll have to see what her ultimate goal was other than just feeding dead souls to Death.
But why? Her motivation doesn’t make any sense until we can see what these deals are. If she cares so much about staying alive, why is she painting such a large target on her back?
Well, we do know her soul is destined to hel. She was already working on deals with Helya, its pretty obvious this is all about her gaining some form of immortality by serving the old gods.
She’s said she is trying to master death, not serve it. I can understand why she would want to do that but that still doesn’t explain the choices she has made. As you said, there is clearly some bargain at work with some entity we know nothing about, but also for no well defined reason beyond ‘Sylvanas wants to master death’.
I’m hoping they don’t just leave it at that if they expect her to make a good enough villain to base the next expansion around.
Sorry but I am totally unconvinced that anything she was doing was for the “betterment” of our existence. She made it clear that her goal was to feed as many of us to the “hungering darkness” as possible. Now call me crazy but that doesn’t sound like a good thing to me.
That’s my point. We still are getting this “eventually” bit. It’s been one and a half expansions since her unknown deal with Helya, and we’re still not really any closer to understanding why her character development has seemingly made this harsh 180.
Fleeing makes it seem like she was being hunted or about to be captured.
She won her duel.
Had anyone attempted to attack her after her win, Saurfangs entire sacrifice would have meant nothing and there would have been massive bloodshed.
She literally just left. She wasn’t running from anyone or trying to evade anyone. She had both the tactical and power advantage and just walked away (well away)
Fleeing suggests cowardice which isn’t what happened
They did exactly what was expected. Side with alliance base and horde who fravor alliance. They pretty much was going to lose some players no matter what they did. They took the one they hope would leave them the most players. Now for your naysayers just login and see how well the horde is doing. Most places it a ghost town. Even in leveling its a ghost town. In before you say anything. It was full and thriving before the patched made it statement.
I am betting that someone seeing the numbers and whole lot of in the background stuff going on. That statement to the horde players sent a clear message. That the game will always and has always favored alliance. That the horde will never win. That they were winning till first patch. It seem by the last patch again the horde was winning. To once again have it taken away. Was too much. We didn’t care who side won. As long for once we were winning.
Then add insult they told the horde they were nothing. A slight back door message to all the horde players. Confirming what they had known all along. That they as a whole drew too many players over and that was hurting their favorite.
Say all you want and try to dinie it. Look who making most post about the ending: Alliance. Look at who defending them alliance. They even logging on the Horde to make it seem that the horde support this.
Here a message from the true horde. You wanted everything alliance: have at. The true horde sick of the alliance based expansions, alliance based perks and all the other things given. That the developers said was need. yet to this day show no proof. Far as we concern. Then ones who truly sick of the direction the game going. Well what left is all yours. You think no flying had no impact. Then you problem going think this too. Numbers do not lie.