When a person forces words or thoughts or beliefs in another mouth they do deserve and need 2 be insulted they ask 4 it
Actually we already know how this is going to go because weâre following all of the stoey beats of Garrosh, up to and including chasing a disgraced former war chief to a place outside of space and time.
So logically, this ends with sylvanas getting slapped down by a former comrade who does so with a heavy heart because theyâve realized that all of the potential sylvanas had was wasted.
applying any sorts of âcanonâ on PC in mmorpg is probably worst thing story department could do. Youâre not allowed to RP, youâre canonized.
You have a blind adoration of someone (thus the term waifu) who doesnât care about you in the slightest. Hence the term simp (as it refers to you).
Your personal sexual orientation is moot WRT these statements.
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Whitewashing your âQueensâ actions because you liked a previous incarnation of her character is not good for you.
I get it dude, I liked Sylvanas once too, The Classic - Cataclysm days were great for her character.
But I donât know how anyone can call themselves a Sylvanas fan and not be put off where she is as a character now. The fact she was even Warchief is so UN-Sylvanas like in every way.
Blizzard ruined the character, and I canât help but feel youâre just coping.
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Itâs not even about her either its about her story and believes and methods Iâd follow anyone with those things she has sheâs the last character alive with it and without her this game Its basicly hello kitty
Donât we go and meet Sylvanas after she yeets off into the sunset after calling the Horde a bad name?
That seems to imply we still follow her.
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So you just want a leader with a lack of empathy or morals, and deploys methods that achieve victory no matter any sacrifice?
History both fictional and reality has proven those leaders and their followers are always defeated and dismantled in the end.
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Oh rlly vlad, Elizabeth bathory or in. Vampires lestat or Dracula from castlevanis or Jack of blades on fable
I think people like you are a good argument for why a 3rd Scourge faction would likely be really popular.
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In other words, the entire BFA expansion.
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If you want to support genocide, go for it. You just donât get that choice in game.
Iâd be fine if kel thuzard returned it Arthas or anbubrank the crypt lord dude or archimond or any of those but sheâs the last one.
Yeah, especially since she had her dark ranger groupies murder the members of the council who werenât the cartoon villain âdeath to the livingâ stereotypes that she wanted all the Forsaken to be. Heck, she had all of them killed anywayâŚeven the ones still loyal to her and trying to obey the order to return. Why someone would choose to be loyal to a leader that paranoid and evil is beyond me. If you want a totalitiarian leader who only wants your blind obedience and kills you the second you show independant thought or want to leave, why not just stay under the Lich King? (Arthas, not LK lite Bolvar). At least Arthas never pretended to care about the Scourge or that they were anything but slaves to be disposed of when no longer needed.
Sylvanas never cared about the Horde. Even in vanilla the introduction voice-over for the Forsaken makes it clear that she only joined the Horde in an alliance of convenience and that as a whole they held no true loyalty to it.
Pre Edge of Night I at least thought she cared (or as much as she was capable of the emotion) for the Forsaken (and her sisters and Nathanos), but they threw even that out the window. Sylvanas cares about herself and her continued existence and nothing else, and I have zero doubt that unless they try to pull a 180 on her in Shadowlands, sheâd throw Nathanos, Alleria and Vereesa into a fiery pit if it guaranteed her immortality and freedom from the Maw.
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what joy is there in forfeiting your body to her, you will die for her, then she will rez you multiple times and then you will die multiple times and then when you become a skeleton, she will just reanimate you to fight for her once again, lol, what a terrible way to live
Iâve wanted a Scourge/Legion faction for years. 
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Her approach to leadership was an utter failure owing to her not understanding the core ethics of the hordeâs constituent members or what drove them, and even for someone like myself who tries to look at war from an objective standpoint she was absolutely miserable at it with a greater emphasis put on carnage then on actual achievable goals.
Like the horde could have been in a position of absurd strength by siezing darkshore, since it would have locked down the only secure port that the alliance had (rachet and Theramore are too close to Orgrimar to be safe) and effectively held Teldrasil hostage, thus allowing the horde to dictate terms to the alliance (likely full control of Kalimdorâs mainland south of stone talon mountains and a DMZ in darkshore and ashenvale) and ensuing full control of the largest supply of azerite on the planet.
Simple, clean and efficient. The sort of move that would have been praiseworthy amongst the horde and wary earned respect from the alliance with minimal mess or collaterol damage.
Instead we got a sprawling conflict that served no purpose other then to gut the military s of both of azerothâs major factions.
But then I guess a tantruming edgelord on the internet would absolutely adore this form of leadership.
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She also ditched you.
I donât know about the others, but Lestat definitely isnât portrayed as âa leader with a lack of empathy or moralsâ who âdeploys methods that achieve victory no matter any sacrificeâ. He does way too much philosophical angsting for that (like most of Riceâs main vampires), but Iâm guessing you skipped over those parts.
You come across as someone with a very simplistic, black-and-white way of looking at things (e.g. itâs all either murderhobo funland or hello kitty, no in-between) for whom subtleties and nuance are closed books. It makes it hard to take your, uh, âargumentsâ seriously.
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If that was about what it was about then Iâd agree but its notâŚ
Look at the characters we have she is our last dark lord them ed character we get to enjoy and fight along with⌠yet the hippie night elfâs still live and the jesus orc lives⌠but they take away the cooler and more deep charactersâŚ
And then have to nerve to say those who were loyal guess what your not because were a Christian game that doesnt approve does call for rage and insults they asked 4 itâŚ