Would be nice to que anywhere around 2-2.4 (considered casual rating) without being literal fodder for people who live and breathe this game (not casual)
Would be nice to que without facing the same 3 people and/or their multi same class alts
RBGs are even worse
Queing this game actually feels masochistic. Please do something to incentivize participation and bring casuals back to PvP
brainwashed if u think this is a casual rating. like less than 0.01% of players are in this range rn
but yes we do need more participation no dizzzzzoubt
Shadowlands and its consequences.
0.01% of Players sure. But probably like 2% of the ladder
absolutely 0% chance that 1 in 50 players who q pvp are in the 2k-2.4k range.
do you know how many people are in LFG right now pushing like 1600
I mean top 0.5% is about 2350 right now. I could believe that 2% is over 2k. For 3s anyway
Hey, look at that. 
Yea but dataforazeroth is all accounts it cant distinguish between pvpers and pveers
Ok so via checkpvp for 3s right now.
Rank 97 marks 0.1 (2613)
Rank 485 marks 0.5 (2421)
Rank 2910 marks 3% (2090)
Not too far off from what I originally thought
where do u see this on checkpvp. actually ur 2% might not be far off, just trying to remember what duelist was back in the day before it was 2100 by default
but again thats certainly not casual. the casual pvper may not even be fully conq’d out
Too high barrier of entry, too hard to find a healer, not enough rewards
Check the rank 1 cutoff 0.1% and then just do math
What barrier of entry you get an honor set and go? Finding a healer on ladder has not been bad at all, way better than SL S3 which is about my only recent reference point. I think having to be a multi glad/rank 1 to hit elite is crap but whatever.
Hey did we do rbgs earlier with you as blood? I was a holy priest and we held lm 2v7 on the opener. Maybe someone with a similar name.
I wouldn’t use casual/hardcore in this regard. Im over 2100 and I’ve only done 20 shuffles so far all season. I consider that to be pretty casual levels of gameplay.
The average pvper though is probably with ten percentile if the median rating which tends to be somewhere between 1450-1650 depending on season. Most likely at the lower end of that range this season
Idk 2-2.1 seems fairly casual maybe less than .01 over 2.4
In any case bring back casual incentives idc if it’s inflation or what but this is depressing
Players can be casual at any rating though. There a shaman in these forums that is at like 400 shuffles lobbies played at 2k. Would you call that amount of time investment casual?
Hmm. I suppose this kind of depends on ones interpretation of “casual”.
200 actually.
Not you bb