Lost my spot this week in ulduar (warrior)

Welcome to classic wow. Where only 3 specs are viable through like 4 expansions

If your larger point is that wage growth is rising at a similar rate to inflation so players aren’t losing earning power, then that may be true. But inflation definitely exists, that’s not debatable.

One of the key causes of inflation in the real world is monetary supply growing faster than economic output. In WOW, that would be analogous to “gold creation vs gold sinks.” Gold is created in every raid, every dungeon etc as items drop. But it is only truly removed in a handful of largely trivial ways, (repair, ah/travel fees, skills/respecs.) Gold creation has long outpaced gold sinks in classic which has led to an increase in the monetary supply, which has led to inflation. IE: goods and services cost more because “gold” is less rare and thus worth less.

And while this has some key benefits, IE a reduction in the relative cost of static costs (ie gold sinks) it also has some negatives. Like the reduction in ROI from dailies which have a fixed wage vs goods/services which are not fixed and adjust relative to inflation. When inflation is low, dailies are a decent way to make money. As inflation increases, they become less worthwhile relative to anything with a non-fixed wage.

I’m basically arguing that cost of living in an MMO (consumables, repairs, etc.) Raise at the same rate that wages( making gold) increase.

Trade goods increasing in price is irrelevant if making gold increases at the same rate.

As in real life, that depends on where you’re sitting.

As I said, your gold earned only increases if you’re doing something that leverages the player economy. If you primarily earn gold through something with a fixed wage, IE dailies, then your cost of living is not rising at the same rate. In the same way, wages may rise much faster in some sectors relative to others causing inflation, though not everyone enjoys those increasing wages.

Conversely, if you are earning gold through something that leverages the player economy, but your costs are largely fixed… then your wages are rising at a rate that greatly surpasses your “cost of living.” IE: A new player on an established server. Their costs are largely fixed (mount and training) but they’re able to leverage the economy that values say copper at an incredibly inflated ratte. Thus their earning power INCREASES in the same way it decreases for the other guy who only does dailies.

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I mean this was my whole point.

Unless you’re only making gold off of something that’s predetermined like I have said above daily’s for instance then you’re going to feel the cost of goods increasing and you not being able to afford them maybe.

Like I pointed out also that’s literally the worst way to make gold.

Not so…

Wages may rise much faster in some sectors relative to others causing universal inflation even though not everyone enjoys those increasing wages.

In the real world you often see this in cities with large IT industries. The wages in these fields have risen dramatically over the last decade but wages in other fields have largely remained stagant, or at least increased much more slowly. Thus if you live in these areas, you will see costs that rise far more than your wages, resulting in a relative increase in your cost of living/decrease in earning power.

In Wow that’s pretty analagous to what you see with GDKP’s. GDKP’s provide an avenue for making gold that far surpasses pretty much any other method. But if you choose not to engage in GDKP’s, you don’t get to realize that increased gold earning potential… you only see the rising costs. Thus, much like for our non-IT employee, you have seen a decrease in your earning power/an increase in your cost of living.

Those non gdkp players who you said see the rising costs don’t make gold anywhere then except dailies.

Even if they were to farm mats or craft stuff to make gold that would easily keep up with the rising prices in goods.

But I guess I’m lucky my guilds hella rich and raid consumables are all provided by them.

Consumables are hella cheap in wotlk. The only reasons to get rivers of gold is GDKPS/RMT

and so those aren’t intended by Blizzard and not something by design that they need to accommodate or even favor in any way.

Not so. They could do any number of other things. Crafting/gathering professions, working the AH etc. But the gold per hour from those activities, while higher than it was, will still always be far far less than the GPH from a GDKP. And while they will see a trickle down effect from the increased costs due to inflation, their realized gains will be far less than what the people who directly benefit receive.

Think: The waiter who works in San Jose. Sure they make a lot more money than they used to, but since everyone else’s wages are increasing so much faster inflation is far outpacing their own wage increases, even though that’s not the case for those benefitting directly from the rising wages.

The only reason, and largely the only avenue to do so. As you said, if consumables are hella cheap than so are the mats to create them which makes both farming through Alchemy and herbalism pretty inefficient. Particularly when you could go make 2k gold per hour in a GDKP. (on the low end)

They’re emergent gameplay. Not intended, but still within the framework of the game.

Gdkps have always been intended, what are you saying?

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I keep seeing warriors post about being replaced. The only warriors being replaced are the ones who they wanted gone and now have a reason.

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Welcome to elitism. That’s how it works. They only care about pushing numbers and that’s it. If you aren’t a top dog, you’ll get kicked right out. Time to find a nicer guild.
:axe:

Meanwhile, checked guild logs and you were there. Quit fishing for attention, and lying. Slandering people for no reason is cringe. /didnthappen

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Seeing how annoying he is on the forums I can only imagine how annoying he is on discord. I’d bench him permanently too, every 15 mins he probably goes “WARRIORS JUST SUCK”

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Yeah, I do NOT envy his guild.

I’d have g-kicked him by now.

Still scrolling, but wanted to comment on this part.

I don’t see anyone saying warriors don’t need a buff, but I am seeing a lot of people calling you out for spamming and doubting your claim of being removed from your raid spot.

Just saying.

If you complain about warriors needing buffs as much in your guild as you do here, then I don’t blame them.

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I thought Aussies had good banter?
But on this forum the only Aussies i’ve noticed are this crying warrior and the weird shaman tank guy

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I hope I wasn’t being intrusive but I looked your character up on logs, it seems you recently left an underpeforming guild for a better one, you’re a good player so I can understand why you did.

However, this is part and parcel now in WOW. You have hardcore guilds and really casual ones and even though you’re probably good enough to perform in a hardcore raid team environment, you’re by nature replaceable.

The meta of WOTLK is scuffed to hell where you’re stuck in this position if you don’t fall into either camp. Sorry man.

His parses are all blue and purple. He may not be a great warrior but he is at least a good one. You speak of him like he’s running a grey parse.

If your guild replaces or essentially “kicks” you for a newcomer on a better class then thats the best that can happen no? Not worth being in such a guild just find a better one.

Also… you chose to play warrior so complaining is a no no. We all know or knew way ahead of time how the balancing goes.