I have done 7/7 in BFD most lockouts. I have hardly won any gear. I have never seen an epic weapon drop.
Our group is usually melee heavy with 2 priests. I have seen druid balance spec items drop many times - all disenchanted. I have one of the three priest set items - having lost rolls many times (to other priests). About 75% of drops are disenchanted. Yet only a few of the regulars have all slots covered bar the epic weapon. Most are below 50%.
Have we been unlucky? Maybe.
Yesterday I did a pug on my druid healer. I got 6 drops - no competition. We had a pug priest join our regular raid who got 5 drops (I lost 4 rolls).
Something seems wrong with a system that produces these outcomes.
Maybe personal loot should be an option for raid leaders. I know loot scarcity keeps people raiding - but I also think there’s a limit to scarcity. I’m reaching it - and if I think gnomeregan will turn out the same I’m not sure I’ll bother.
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Loot scarcity is actually the best way to keep people raiding. But I do think the last week or at the start of P2 they should remove the lockout as it will be a lower level raid.
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Low RNG chance is cancer to any MMORPG for an item that’s not legendary.
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For a seasonal game with an expanding level cap the items should be very easy to get until 60, at level 60 the drop rates are not as important because you aren’t going anywhere.
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Personal loot will never come to SoD.
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Epics for everyone ruined WoW and sent people back to Pservers.
Loot scarcity is amazing.
Retail is where you’ll find epics handed to you on a silver platter.
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I’m with you, loot scarcity is one thing, but over a month of lockouts and 1 belt between 2 different characters. That far from just scarcity.
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Can we at least not bloat every boss’s loot table full of garbage?
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I have done every lockout since launch on my main (mage healer) who only has the wand, the staff, and the gloves left to get. I pug 100% of my runs, and its rough out there. Is what it is though, that’s part of the fun.
lol, people haven’t cared about the color of an item’s quality since like 2007.
in classic especially literal bis items are greens at times.
15 seconds boss fights in classic at level 60 end-game isn’t silver platter? lol
Loot scarcity is amazing.
In a seasonal version of the game, no.
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The real issue that leather caster gear has very limited use. It will be even worse when they start putting mail caster gear in the next dungeon set.
There are only 2 ways to solve this - either make all caster gear cloth, or personal loot.
Would have to change how personal loot works. Holy Paladins don’t just wear plate so their personal loot will be everything from cloth to plate.
They don’t have loot specs and gear would all have to be classified as DPS / heal / tank gear.
Finally personal loot is actually just group loot but the game auto rolls need for you and doesn’t show the rolls so if I don’t need anything off a certain boss then game is gonna roll for me anyway reducing the loot others get.
That is true but on the flip side you don’t end up with useless loot that nobody can use.
That is the nature of RNG big dawg… I’ve gotten no items in the last 4 attempts. Sometimes that happens and sometimes you get all the gear.
Add a one handed axe… please a one hander axe…
Just less meme trash loot please.
Every lockout since launch, how many has that been so far now? Seen 0 leather physical set boots drop. BFD loot tables are trash and I hope Gnomeregan brings some improvements.
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I’ve done 7/7 with my guild now since the release of the Yeti’s (that helped us alot to get past the orc). The yeti’s expired out 2 or 3 raids ago and even though the week after the yeti’s were gone, we were still able to push thru and beat the orc. Last night we just breezed thru it under an hour (I know others and even pugs can clear it under 30 minutes) but we just 1 shot everthing with only a few people dying (mostly they lagged out).
Anyways, after 8 or so clears of 7/7, I have my 3 piece set and trident and trinket. I also made the leather gloves from the questline in there. I am only missing the epic crossbow (or even that bow with the +5str on it, ya that would be a HUGE upgrade for my pvp bow i currently use). Bow/x-bows never drop… i think they are myths
They just need to make gnomer a longer lockout with a lot more drops and a larger group size like 20man (I think 40 is too big for gnomer). Along with this there will be a big shift in what tier sets people will want since Hunters and Shamans will be using mail and warriors and paladins will be using plate which will lower the competition for leather gear. And cutting down meme gear (or atleast making it niche, fun or bonus loot) should make the loot/scarcity better for the game.
Yeah it’s pretty tough for cloth wearers right now…
I think the challenge is a bunch of gear exists that is kind of useless… Would much rather the loot tables be condensed to items that are more useful.
Or the items that the devs think might fit some niche, have them drop in addition to core items.
It would also help if we had a few more druid healers… Usually it’s 2 priests and a priest/druid is actually a better comp anyways.