Loot boxes in WoW

There is a move here in Australia to ban gaming companies selling their games to those under the age of 18 if those games contain loot boxes (and there is a fairly wide definition of what constitutes gambling/loot boxes). The move also includes changing the classifications of games that feature gambling across all platforms, including apps. A number of countries already ban games from having any form of gambling/loot boxes in their games and many people here are wondering why we don’t as well. The article gave a list of 20 games that feature gambling/loot boxes and Acti-Blizzard was mentioned a number of times. (Should that legislation take place, Activision would need to change whatever games it offers to Australians to remove any form of gambling or loot boxes, or not offer those games to Australians.)

I was interested to note that loot boxes aren’t banned in the US, which probably shouldn’t surprise me, given the influence of big business there. I did notice, while doing a bit of googling on that, that there is currently at least one legal action taking place in the US against Activision Blizzard, in short:

"B.D. v. Activision-Blizzard

  • Date filed: March 16, 2020
  • Jurisdiction: California state court (San Diego)

… alleging Overwatch loot box issues…" Apparently its an action taken by a father on behalf of a child.

So the short and the long of my post is this: given the freedom that companies have in the US to include gambling/loot boxes in their games, and the fact that Activision Blizzard already have games with those features in them - how unlikely would it be to see something similar happen in WoW?

One could say we already have ‘soft’ versions of loot boxes in WoW - the uncollected boxes in the Black Market AH for example, which are a form of gambling, and to a lesser degree the Cards of Omen in Inscription, which are a bit like lottery cards in that there is a very small chance of winning a large amount of gold from them. The BM boxes are probably closer to loot boxes in that they cost a lot of gold, which can obviously be purchased through the token system. The principle at work here is that they scratch the gambling itch and tempt people to keep trying.

Once I would have said No Way, but with the declining popularity of WoW recently and the use of loot boxes as a way of increasing revenue, it’s looking a little less impossible than it once would have. I think the only possible reason they wouldn’t do it is the risk of loosing a substantial number of older or longterm players, unless they believed bringing in loot boxes would attract the younger players who are accustomed to it in other games.

It’s probably me doing the whole “glass half empty” approach but if it ever did happen, this old, tired casual would be slamming the unsub button so fast my arthritis would play up…

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And you wouldn’t be alone.

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I see the push toward normalizing token sales for paid carries as a standard means of gearing to be a bigger issue in general with this game.

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They don’t need them here to boost the bottom line - they have token sales.

:cookie:

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But the token sales only work if there are enough people wanting gold. As in, those who are still playing or interested in whatever they can buy. It was more a question of whether loot boxes would temp people to actually play more. I mean, I certainly hope not but the article made me aware of how many of Activision’s games already feature gambling, so its not a new concept to them.

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You aren’t wrong but I so hope they won’t go down that path here. I don’t think I would be able to stay.

:cookie:

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I understand token sales are their main profit center now.

People will defend anything. If loot boxes come to WoW, certain people will say “It’s just cosmetic.”

Is SWTOR banned in any country? They have loot boxes and gambling.

Very well written, I hope more is done to protect gamers.

I would love for loot boxes to go the way of the dodo.

Just noticed, necro…

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A lot of people feel the same. People are fed up with all the over monetization of games. I’ve kinda just stopped caring… I won’t support it, but what can any of us do when people willing to drop hundreds and as long as people are willing to put in that money, game companies will continue the practice.

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