Or premades should stop being so terrified of the prospect of facing other premades.
It’s hard to take premades seriously when they claim their matches are so so hard, poor babies, but then actively try to avoid them by pug stomping.
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Ziryus if you honestly think they are “terrified” of facing other premades your delusional. It’s hard to take the solo que advocates serious, they all want easy honor without putting in any effort. AQ is out now you dont need your welfare epics anymore.
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Right they don’t want to fight equivalent teams because they are afraid of an equal match up.
That’s all their argument comes down to. PuG vs PuG is the equivalent to premade vs premade as the teams are relatively equal in comp. Premades however are too terrified of actually having to play against an equivalent team which is why they are so insistent they be allowed to get free honor from pug stomping.
All while being massive hypocrits and claiming pugs are the ones who want easy mode.
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Despite my disagreement with the OP’s suggestion, I do agree that some (not all) Pre-Mades are like this. I find the behavior no different from a high level ganking a low level, on a PvP Server (despite the low level awarding honor or not). There are some ('cause we can’t be sure if it’s ALL of them) that exhibit in such behaviors.
That being said, my claim in rejecting the OP’s suggestion comes from a completely different angle and is not just locked to BGs but the PvE aspect, as well. While I understand the thrill of Solo Play because I do Solo quite a lot in this game, there’s just certain aspects of the game that should remain to enforce Team Play (and, I don’t mean using some Finder Tool, to automatically set that up, for you but actually creating a helpful and engaging community).
Like I said, we have been spoiled by Retail’s “QoL” additions to further deviate away from the concept of Team Play.
PuG’s do want easy mode and easy honor as they are the only ones on here complaining that it is not fair.
Premades are in BG’s not crying in the forums for easy mode to be enabled.
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You act like getting a handful of people together and logging into Discord is hard. It isn’t. You act like stomping pugs is hard. It isn’t. You act like throwing in the towel when you face a better premade is hard. It isn’t. You act like a quick finish to a match where the other premade throws in the towel is hard. It isn’t.
Go solo queue. Face a premade and tell me how easy and fun that is.
Pretending queuing as a premade takes effort or is anywhere near “hard” is the most disingenuous load of bull that’s been trotted out.
You act like every premade is just with trash tier players like you
If it isn’t hard to do then wtf is stopping you from just joining a premade and getting “free” honor
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So in your mind someone really bad at pvp going up against another person really bad at pvp should be rewarded equally compared to someone really good at pvp going up against literally everyone and winning just because it was equally difficult for the bad player to win their low skill fight because they suck as it is for the high skilled player to win their high skill fight?
Premades do not "avoid " other premades by stomping pugs. That literally makes zero sense, premades can’t magically choose who they queue against, every premade in the queue is getting matched up against other premades just as often as anyone else queueing for pvp
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I’m zero tier if that’s what you’re talking about. I don’t raid with this toon and I don’t ever intend to. You act like this has anything to do with the issue.
Nothing. I’ve joined several premades. Never faced another premade and it just wasn’t fun. Unlike you, I don’t find any satisfaction in easy mode stomping.
I find pug v pug fun. You having a problem with that is just kooky.
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Lololol, do you even know what the word “tier” means
If you say you’ve never gone up against another premade while playing in a premade then you OBVIOUSLY dont have very much if any experience pvping in a premade
Probably because you’re level 59 and aren’t even queueing against 60s
Which proves my point, you’re another trash tier player trying to change the entire pvp system to suite your super casual gameplay
The higher the rank the more honor, correct? Go fight other premades with high rankers and there’s your “extra” reward.
Pugs fighting other pugs takes as much effort as premades fighting other premades. Much like boxers in the lightweight division are putting forth as much effort as boxers in the middle and heavyweight divisions. The divisions are separated in the spirit of competition and sportsmanship.
Imagine that.
This toon is very casual. Pvp and Pve wise. And it may or may not be true that I’m a trash tier player. It’s totally irrelevant.
Your freaking out over the prospect of having to face other premades is the issue - and it says it all.
You’re afraid you will no longer be able to satisfy your adolescent male ego by stomping pugs. This thought terrifies you.
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Easy honor? It’s easier honor to premade. Solo queuing gives you ZERO control over comp and no comms outside of in-game chat. For the 1-2 games of WSG I can do in an hour and maybe win (even assuming a pug), once you factor in queue and match time, a premade will have blown through at least one game, probably a pug, which was a near-guaranteed win, ensuring 3 marks and probably at least 20 HKs all within 15 mins.
But no, pug is easy honor. Just because premades like to stack the brackets, pugging is easy honor. Yep. You are so full of it
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One major problem here
Classic wow has no MMR, the only thing that matters for ranking up is honor per hour.
For the idea of “premades only face other premades” to work the entire system for ranking would have to be reworked to be similar to rated battlegrounds like in cataclysm where WIN RATES is what matters.
Reworking the entire pvp system of classic wow to turn it into something that didn’t exist in vanilla is not in the cards
If you dont like it, quit playing
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Its not about pug games being “easy honor” its that the skill required to succeed in 100% pug only queue would be WAY lower, you would never have to go up against a proper team, it would almost always be low tier zerg to win pvp reliant on which team had better RNG on team matchmaking.
" oh the other team has 2 healers and we have zero, GG"
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Well guess what? With this new fix blizzard implemented coming next week, youlll see even more premades than before. So if you hated them and wanted blizzard to do something, they decided to make it worse for us all. Than make believe they did something good for the players by calling it combating exploitative behavior. Yet another aspect ruined and taken away. You can’t farm because there’s a million bots so it’s way harder. You can’t get black lotus because people are fly bottling. You can’t buy them Unless you have 100g. You can’t spend 100g unless you farm to make money which is very difficult. You’ve done nothing because it isn’t important enough. There’s a bot on my realm who has 6 pairs of edgemasters in the AH, logs into his alliance on the same realm and griefs people of their world buffs all day long. People can’t sit in their city without being debuffed by someone who thinks it’s funny. You can’t farm without worrying about scrubs, you literally might as well sit in org and talk all day, and wait for raid to come. Farm your consumes and continue raid logging. Love being able to get all this gear just to stare at it. Which is why people PvP. You guys are absolutely disgraceful man.
But facing a premade where all RNG is removed and they have pre-coordinated comms and comp is somehow better for me?
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Play in a premade
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No it wouldn’t. You tweak the queue system and that’s that.
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Are you so ignorant that you think it’s only the alliance that premade? and because they are afraid, afraid of what some pixels on a screen.
If you don’t understand why people premade you know nothing about the current honor system it has nothing to do with fear, it is not only the alliance that premade, it is all about maximizing your honor per hour to rank efficiently.