Lonstrider trait question

I have the Trailblazer talent (+30% movement speed) and when I add the Longstrider azurite trait I see no indication of increased speed. But if I have some +Speed armor it is shown as an increase in the stats. Does Longstrider not stack with Trailblazer, or maybe it does but it is not reflected in the stats?

The tooltip says Longstrider increases movement speed up to 6%, so is that why it is not being applied since I already have 30% from Trailblazer (and 3 more percent from armor)?

I can’t say for sure how it interacts with Trailblazer. I do know longstrider does not show in the Speed stat, but it does stack with the Speed stat as is shown by my addon which shows my total speed.

Longstrider stacks with trailblazers and shows on the character sheet.

Hmmm makes me wonder if this also stacks with racials speed boosts for both the Mag’har and DI.

Does not show that for me.

Yes they all stack for run speed, mount speeds do not stack

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Just did a timed run with and without my helm, which has the Longstrider trait. Without, it took 131.9 seconds. With, it took 126.8 seconds. So it does provide a 3.9% speed boost for me, although not as much as advertised according to the tooltip.

The tooltip says speed is increased by 20% of your highest secondary rating, which for me is 36.5% Mastery. So I should be getting 6% (36.5%*.2 = 7.3%, which exceeds cap). My interpretation only, please correct if I’m wrong.

You get 20% of your highest stat meaning that if you have 1000 of a stat you get 400 speed up to 6% additional speed. You can have get more than the max boost

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As Ruzaki said it is not based on your percentage of mastery (or any other stat). Mastery specifically is calculated differently and has an additive component and a different multiplier for each spec. I think he was basically correct in his explanation, except 20% of 1000 is 200, not 400. So the way I think it works is you get a speed rating equal to 20% of your highest stat rating up to 6% speed.

It may be though, that you get 20% of your highest stat percent at its base percent. I will have to test it at some point…

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my bad on the typo, its based on the rating not percentage

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Thanks for your corrections. I think I had 808 Mastery at the time of the run - it’s up to 890 now. The tooltip says Mastery: 890 (+23.49%). I think the 23.49 was about 21 at the time of the test. 20% of 21 would be pretty close to the 3.9% speed increase observed in the test. So perhaps that percentage number is the one used to calculate the speed increase.

Ok, several corrections, based on testing I did tonight.

First, you do not gain Speed Rating equal to 20% of your highest rating stat. Not only does it not actually show as rating in the movement speed tooltip, but at 120, you get 1% speed for only 20 speed rating initially (though it appears to now have a diminishing returns curve to it. ex. my monk gets 2.80% movement from 62 rating and 10.14% from 312 rating. My warrior gets 2.17% from 47 rating).

On my shaman, a 370 Longstrider grants 18% of highest, up to 6%. I get 3% from it. My highest rating is Crit at 1040 rating, and my highest percentage is also Crit at 19.44%, and he has no speed tertiary stat anywhere on his gear. Now, the tooltip for speed is only precise to the whole integer level, so the 3% displayed could be anywhere between 2.5% and 3.49%.

18% of my 19.44% crit is 3.4992%. 18% of 1040 rating is 187.2, which would be 9.36% movement speed before diminishing returns. Considering that 62 rating was worth 2.8% on my monk, I doubt that 187 rating would be worth 3.49% or less.

So the math of the speed appears to line up with granting raw speed percentage based on your highest character sheet stat percentage, with the exception of mastery. For mastery, it appears to scale off mastery points*. For my shaman, while he has 26.33% mastery, that only represents 14.04 mastery points, which is less than my 19.44% in crit.

Conclusion: Longstrider is definitively not granting speed rating as a percentage of your highest secondary stat rating. It appears to grant raw movement speed percentage as a fraction of your actual highest percentage on your character sheet (with special rules for mastery).

Other than that, it also stacks (additively) with all other movement speed increasing effects that alter unmounted movement speed. It does not affect mounted movement speed, and thus obviously does not stack with mounted movement speed bonuses like the Heart of the Crusader paladin passive.

*You get 1 mastery point for every 72 mastery rating, regardless of class or spec. Each point of mastery gets converted into the percentage on your character sheet based on your base (naked) mastery percentage. The conversion ratio for your spec is the amount of mastery percentage you have naked divided by 8, because everyone has 8 mastery points baseline. For example, my elemental shaman has 15% character sheet mastery percentage naked, which is 15 / 8 = 1.875% per mastery point. He has 435 mastery rating, which grants 435 / 72 = 6.042 mastery points. That grants an additional 6.042 * 1.875% = 11.328% mastery. And sure enough, his mastery tooltip shows Mastery: 435 [+11.33%], and his total mastery is 26.33% (15% + 11.33%).

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