They nerfed the Belf racial because of mythic+ not pvp.
I already said this? Yes mostly mythic+ but also PvP.
And it doesn’t change anything really, Shadow Meld is overused in Mythic+ as well. Did you see the MDI for Dragonflight seasons? 90% of the teams were Night Elf for fast meld skips lol
True.
Though at this point, if they really wanted to balance, they would remove racials from rated content. Clearly they are not going to. Just wait until Drackthyr classes come. It’ll be even more crazy with things you can do racial wise.
You probably shouldn’t post on anything other than how to be a chicken and avoid fighting fair. Your insight on pvp balance is 0.
Why are you even talking? You literally follower dungeon every time you see me.
Then you troll on the forums pretending like you don’t. You have nothing of value to post on the forums.
Cry me a river. You can get world buffs too.
Considering the night elf racial is single handedly responsible for the imbalance in warmode populations I’m 100% in favor of nerfing it. If shadowmeld went away tomorrow I wonder what all of the sweaty people would race change to. Which racial is second most OP? Orc kind of seems good again there is no stun duration reduction gem right now.
Bro’s on here acting like they didn’t nerf the human racial long before they nerfed the Belf Racial.
Bros on here acting like they didn’t nerf Troll and Undead racial way before they nerfed Human racial.
Remember when Undead racial not only removed fear, charm, and sleep, but also provided immunity to them for like 5 seconds? Remember when Troll racial gave 20% increased Haste now it only gives 10%?
The Undead racial is still great are you trying to troll right now?
It’s 15% for 10sec. Still very good.
Trolls also have a passive 20% defense to movement impairing effects
Edit: to add more info
And the human racial is still great as well, are you trying to troll right now?
Look man, you wanted to bring up Human racial being nerfed before Belf racial, I’m only saying, Undead and Troll got nerfed before that.
It’s 10% right now. Was changed from 15% to 10% in BfA.
If they change Smeld, it will be just like when druids could spam powershifting to get rid of roots. Years and years this was fine until Blizzard changed shifting to cost a GCD.
Smeld probably needs to be returned, but there will be a bit of belly aching now it was fine for years and years.
Years and years shapeshifting also costed Mana, but no longer does.
Didn’t see this but this is worded a bit weirdly. The duration of the effects are reduced by 20%, but that doesnt really matter when they can be spammed on us. It equates to like, 1 or 2 seconds less? But still spammable.
Of course I did because you’re on here acting like belves got the shaft while ally didn’t get hit with the nerf hammer. Forsaken racial still removes the same effects and we have dr system in pvp so they didn’t really lose anything.
This is correct. The wow head I looked at most have been for classic. Still 10% haste if you spec’d fotm MM hunter plus 20% passive to movement impairing effects is great for this meta.
Still a great advantage over other playable races.
put smeld and flight/shifting on the same gcd. fixed.
Difference is, one was a drastic change and a complete rework while one still relatively functions the same.
Human racial, after it got reworked in Wrath of the Lich King (because your original racial was a stealth detection increase, not Every Man For Himself which was way better) removed every single form of CC. Undead racial removed all fear, charm, and sleep but also provided immunity to said effects for 5 seconds.
They nerfed Undead racial and removed the immunity. Human still stayed the same, removing every form of CC. Even after it was reworked after WoD, it still removed some form of CC, it removed Stuns. Undead still removed fear, charm and sleep. Both of them put other effects (like trinket) on a 30 second cooldown.
Blood Elf racial got changed from a silence/interrupt to… a purge. It didn’t keep any of it’s original functionality, not even a part of it. Just a complete rework.
They also nerfed Troll racial to 10% haste from 20%.
It’s not that I’m acting like Alliance didn’t get the hammer either when Human racial got nerfed, it’s just that Horde had also received the nerf hammer prior, with Undead and Troll.
Honestly Shadow Meld + Flight Form is whatever in my opinion. In this specific scenario, I don’t care that nelves can do that and it shouldn’t even be brought up as a case of being “overpowered” or whatever because it’s just WPvP.
It’s just so strong because certain classes benefit soooo much from it. If you’re playing a healer? It’s best to be a Night Elf. You can drop combat whenever you want and can go for a drink. You don’t need to wait for combat to drop, you can just pop the ability and start. Rogue or druid? What are you doing not playing Night Elf. You get a free restealth that other rogues and druids won’t get. Mythic+? Only a group of night elves are able to do certain strats because they can drop combat and do meld skips. This was huge in DF MDIs.
2min cd
3min cd
The rest of your post is the long way of saying “I’m salty about the belf nerf and blizzard is playing favorites.”
You guys got your own 2 min cooldown that’s the same as Will of the Forsaken. You have Dark Iron Dwarf and Dwarf racials which can remove magic CC which also have a 2 minute cooldown. I can’t think of any charm, fear, or sleep effect that isn’t Magic, that these two racials wouldn’t be able to cleanse.
Not to mention they remove way more, clearing Poison, Disease, Curse, Magic, and Bleed effects.
No, what I’m saying is Blizzard should nerf the Night Elf racial for the same reason they nerfed the Blood Elf racial. They’re both overused.
I’m mostly replying to those here in this thread that defend the Night Elf racial saying it isn’t OP. Blizzards nerf philosophy seemed to be if it was overused in one area of the game, such as M+, it was to be nerfed. I’m pointing out that Night Elf is following that same trend, therefore they should nerf it. You have others here claiming instead of nerfing, that we should buff other racials or that it shouldn’t be touched at all and is fine and dandy as is.
My question to the buff approach is how would Blizzard measure what buffs the other racials get to make it on par with Shadow Meld?