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woah no way shadowlands could potentially be worse than bfa?? 
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I called SL a scam a while ago and the “community” flagged me and I got banned.
Good thing no mod ever reads the arena forums bc yea, SL is kind of a scam lol.
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This is hilarious and expected. You can’t even get mad at them at this point. You just point and laugh.
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You just gotta hope that your spec is strong when SL starts, cuz if history is any indication, they’re not gonna do much anymore after things get rolling.
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Was listening to savix last night and apparently in legion there was supposed to be vivid testing of the PvP talents and if any of them weren’t performing or engaging they would be scrapped and replaced my more engaging and competitive options. O boy was that wrong lmao
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Uhhh no… You want the opposite. 8.0-8.1 look drastically different. 8.1-8.3 looked very similar.
Rip enhance 
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This Idiot is Trash.
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They also said the same thing about templates in Legion as well. While templates themselves were decent, Blizzard made them out to be the next best thing since sliced bread.
They promised all of this stat tuning, stat weighting, rigorous PvP testing, and all of these other things to balance/change the meta. They didn’t do any of that.
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I can’t help but feel like we constantly get hit with campaign promises, but once blizzard is in office (sells the expansion) they could give a crap about fulfilling them. 
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The intern putting that up made a mistake. The initial Word document read “Focused PvP testing to make Lock/Mage even more dominant”.
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Apparently they are adding 0 new pvp talents, outside of thoughtsteal.
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Me looking at the beast mastery lackluster pvp talents (to say the least) and yup 100% wrong.
There’s a few new ones, like Guillotine for Arms
unforch because most of the rogue pvp talents are passives. the only actives are bomb, DFA, and shiv (shiv will be baseline next expac. So they are all pretty boring
the only interesting passive is maneuverability because it gives you a freedom as rogue on your sprint for a few seconds, but I wouldn’t really call that engaging game play
Literally everything PvP related is completely half-azzed garbage. From the “Duelers Guild” to PvP balance changes to PvP cosmetic rewards (chitty BfA enchant is like the only thing character specific now lol) to PvP bugs existing for years on end and everything in between. Even if Ion has no respect for how important PvP has been to this game at the very least you’d think he’d want to exhibit high quality work from his team. If you’re going to do something do it right or don’t do it at all.
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actually insane thinking this is just enhancement shamans life now
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Technically they had to redesign Ret mini wings, it’s very similar to the original now except it auto procs instead of being a button we have control over. Probably a net loss 
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Who cares if PvP is balanced. What matters is how fun it is. If BFA PvP was perfectly balanced right now it would still be in its most boring state of all time.
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Well balance helps. I like seeing more comps. Right now it feels like every game is rmp or mlx. More fun would be good too though. More mop style combat.
Jd was saying adding everything to the gcd kinda wrecks fast gameplay. Kinda makes sense to me. Just slows everything down unnecessarily.
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