If the game was actually fun they wouldnt need to gate qol changes behind long grindy achieves
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Or maybe, you know, they want players to actually earn stuff instead of the ESO Zenimax approach of awarding you for literally pressing W on your keyboard to move forward?
Just a thought. If you look at my profile, I have yet to touch Mythic or even my first raid BUT, I admire those that put in the time. I see other players running around with gear that I KNOW they earned and didn’t just swipe a credit card or have it handed to them. It gives me drive to work towards similar goals.
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Picks up Satuza and gives high five
theft
runs away with the troll in her arms
Being able to use my mounts was earned when I acquired said mount, valor points were earned through the content. Its just extra gating for no reason but time played metrics for the stock holders
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I know this is a veiled complaint about the valor points coming with patch .5 but 8 +15s is not a long grind…
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Do you have to time them? If so, what level can you get to without the achievement?
Valor point change is pretty fair. It’s a compromise that still makes you work hard for gear. I think it’s a nice change, really excited to try the trinkets.
All 5s is 207 all 10s is 213 all 15s 220 and yes they must be in time
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The point of them is to keep easy gear out of players hands, which I agree should be a thing. It should be just do all keys +10 in time nad get access to 220 gear. This is extremely similar to BFA’s gearing system to where 15 keys dropped 5 ilvl under max level gear. This is a good system that should allow players to target pieces and work towards upgrades, rather than playing the great vault slot machine and hope you get something you need out of it.
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Or like here where we get gear 184+ just doing WQs…
WQ’s may be easy for you because you have 10 other players actually outputting the real damage while you do your 3 taps and collect the loot.
Try challenging yourself and doing it on your own and then come back and tell me that 184+ wasn’t earned. Thanks.
If it’s achievement based…I wonder if this is character specific or it can be applied for all your characters after earning it once? It doesn’t work like that for PvP since it’s personal rating. So wonder if it’s going to work the same.
What if you don’t do m+? Of course, I’m sure there are other ways to earn valor points, ActiBlizz wouldn’t be so foolish as to make it so hat the only way you can earn valor points is by doing one type of content, right? Right?!?
Semper Fi! 
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They note you can earn Valor from callings.
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Oh okay so I imagine that this isn’t meant to be the primary method of gearing, just something to make sure that people don’t have pieces that are super far behind their other gear. I suppose that someone timing all 10s won’t be in dire need of the 213 gear 
I wish it was one +5,+10, and +15 in time, though, or maybe all +5,+10,+15 completed. I don’t think I’ll be timing all of them especially not Plaguefall LOL!
Right now there is a WQ in Revendreth, that one of the umbrella that gives a 184 piece of gear…
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stop putting … like you’re making a point, you’re not.
they’ve created a culture of convenience that severely restricts them from creating a long arduous leveling experience which would accomplish the same goal of time gating to keep people subbed.
I felt very accomplished when I got a 194 chest piece from doing the revendreth umbrella gliding quest today.
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i think you forget most serious players use the AH to get a real advantage for awhile, no effort necessary. no one truly earns gear in 2021 like a long time ago.
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