Locking an Entire Hunter Pet Family Behind a current raid? Really?

we already know it’s from raid zul.

Fine, do you want me to put together a full list of your pet utility? If the only argument against what I wrote is nitpicking at 1 of the utility options I listed, maybe your argument could be a lot better.

Slowfall
Mortal Strike
Freedom
Lust
Snares
Purge and Soothe
Thorns
Spirit Mend
Water Walking
Leech buff

I’m probably missing some still, but there you go.

Well darn. Thier choice of specifically heroic zul seems odd.

Edit: now its normal and up zul.

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If you cant take the time to create a valid argument, what are you even adding to this discussion? I even addressed the point you were trying to make. It’s modular utility that you pick. It’s not like this is the only snare in the game. Many many other families have a snare, albeit melee.

It won’t be current forever.

Understanding that pets are part of a hunter’s skills/spells and not the same as a piece of gear you equip seems like basic common sense. No, I won’t sit here and spell out what should be common sense to you.

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Since there’s no time limit on the Pet it is a casual thing since Hunter’s will be able to get it anytime in the future.

Putting a class feature in a heroic raid is asinine. It should be a farmable drop that leads to a challenging single player scenario like warlocks green fire.

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I’m not really a raider. And if it is locked behind H Zul, I don’t like that.

That being said, I want a Crawg enough to try. I’m going to see if I can hop into a raid later (LFR or N) to get my feet wet and start learning the mechanics. And once we find the legit way to get a tome, a Crawg will get a home with me.

I’m too stubborn to not want to try. I’ve wanted a Crawg since the moment I saw their pictures before BFA came out. I’m not a fan of how they chose to implement it, but whatever. I’m doing it.

90% of people posting their “smart a*s come backs” don’t play the game, so of course they don’t care if this is a really bad design.

That is what this is about, people have been looking for it for a while and its a bad design to hide this kind of thing in a heroic raid of current tier, it makes all the casual players feel bad they’ll never get it, and the buggy issues make the better players feel like blizzard rightly don’t know what they are doing.

This is an item that could’ve had a small quest chain or challenge mode like boss, but yet again blizzard just misses the point as they have been doing for the last few years.

Honestly if you want this i would be making sure you get your question into the QA if they see your comment here surrounded by the masterloot morons they’ll assume “players” are happy with it, meanwhile the forums is the worst place to get opinions all they do is post all day while they afk warfronts.

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Pets in general are indeed part of a hunter’s kit. However, this specific family with a very specific ability (ranged snare vs the many melee snares) is not part of the kit. You aren’t losing out on anything beyond modular utility. The special ability itself is the focus of discussion. Given that there are many snares available, why is a slightly more advantageous ranged snare being locked behind an accomplishment not OK?

Are you saying different pieces of Azerite gear do not provide different bonuses? Do you not have to understand different stats?

Wrong. I easily killed Fenryr solo by being smart. First you killed all the trash in the area. Secondly you went MM and kited him around the whole thing with speed boosts. Easy tame GG. Heroic Zul needs a FULL Raid group and then the hunter to meet some random condition.

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Are they more useful than other pets in PvP?

Ranged snare. That’s it. If you think that’s good for PVP then yes…if not this is a waste of time.

If it really is only gotten from a heroic raid that is complete crap. I’d be fine if there was some hidden “quest” like Gara or a rare drop from crawgs, ticks and/or blood trolls like the Direhorn book. But I suppose gating an entire pet family behind a heroic raid is in line with the utter stupidity that is everything about this expansion.

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I dont PvP, but the only advantage I can see is if you want to snare a target that you dont want to focus with your pet. Melee pet snares already exist in the game and can be easily obtained anywhere.

I want to add, here’s the thing. The other tomes might have been difficult to get, but all were soloable or buyable. You didn’t need to go into high tier raiding content to get it. This is even the case for many challenge tames, or at least needing less than 5 people.

Locking a special skin or even a few skins in heroic or mythic raiding would be fine. But the issue is locking an entire family behind this stuff. It’s not cool, and people saying “git good” aren’t understanding that it’s not just a cosmetic skin. It’s an entire pet family with a unique ability and now it’s shut off to a huge chuck of hunters.

Yes, I get there’s exclusively and special stuff that should be for raiders or those that put work in. Gara & Fenryr were great examples of challenge tames. Again most have been hard to do and complex, able to be done by less than 5. And these are all SKINS.

This entire family being locked behind current raiding isn’t something I’m happy about at all and indeed hope it gets changed. I likely will raid on my hunter but that’s not the point. I don’t find it cool to lock the entire family this way, it’d be fine if it were a skin.

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Ah so if I don’t tame Fenryr, I can’t tame any other wolves? News to me.

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Try posting on one of them then.

Shills will be shills.

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meh. who cares, the pet is ugly as hell anyways. if its that much trouble to get it I can live without it.