Ay dudes, as I do every expansion I'm posting up a PvE help thread for anyone who has any questions or is seeking advice that you may not think is worthy of an individual thread.
My goal is to help you improve your DPS.
For immediate help, you can come to my stream (only had it for a week or so. Hope y'all appreciate my Infernal graphics!)
https://www.twitch.tv/itsdeezy
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFrxY8cnMkLE-rAKXtiZQlg/videos
whenever I am live and if you have any questions or need any advice feel free to ask me there. I raid Tuesday, Thursday, Sunday, and Monday nights from 9pm til Midnight Pacific Standard Time. I'll answer as best as I can without shifting tooOo much focus off of raid. If it requires more depth, I'll let you know to repost your question here (usually with logs)
I'm going to update this thread with the best results I get on each boss with each spec for the purpose of compiling videos not as a personal library, but as something people heading in to these bosses can look over to see what Warlocks are doing in raid and to see if you can pull any tips or tricks from them.
Paired with the videos, I'll answer any questions you have about what you're seeing - whether it be with my rotation, any mistakes, or any mechanics.
Destro:
Mythic Taloc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLl_GKgVv2A (09/28/2018)
Mythic MOTHER: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1aU0nm_DOw (09/28/2018)
Mythic Vectis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkyrPA4jN7c (09/30/2018)
Mythic Zek'Voz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkHHwwR7z2c (10/01/2018, Infernal wasn't off CD for Dark Pact, RIP)
Mythic Fetid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbAFJkD5C3c (10/11/2018)
Heroic Ghuun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_44u5N0dfbQ (09/26/2018)
Heroic Mythrax: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbIHIzMBHSc (09/26/2018)
Heroic Zul: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYDpR38KW4o (09/26/2018)
Affliction:
Mythic Taloc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XTW6cgcBMQ (10/02/2018)
Mythic MOTHER: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG7sfeWaTew (10/02/2018)
Mythic Zek'Voz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj6__9of1MQ (10/24/2018)
Mythic Mythrax: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La_OQCQqhj4 (10/31/2018)
Heroic G'huun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B034D2g_FCk (10/02/2018)
Heroic Fetid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCW9QFuoNU8 (10/02/2018)
Mythic+ Videos
Atal'Dazar: Affliction +16 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwCZu0ol1PU
Freehold: Affliction +14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fRu-7-CKIM (2 chest)
King's Rest: Affliction +14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzsWrSVrFbk
Siege of Boralus: Affliction +16 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sxtr_1v9gA
Waycrest Manor: Affliction +15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_idYEFGWsg
Currently streaming Mythic Zek'Voz re-kill into Mythic Fetid prog as Destro
come hang out, ask questions, send noods, complain about class balance etcetcetc
wow... your logs are impressive, I will watch some of your stuff this week for sure ;)
10/02/2018 04:20 AMPosted by
Mesoc wow... your logs are impressive, I will watch some of your stuff this week for sure ;)
Appreciate it my man!
I'll be streaming farm tonight at 9pm PST for anyone that wants to come hang out. Answering any and all questions and welcoming any and all "BOOF DESTRO" conversation
On the same topic, I'm not streaming but might consider putting up some videos.
Finally 8/8 so I have some free time. I am more than happy to look at logs and answer questions, specifically about affliction.
I’ve also been setting up stream stuff recently, I’ll share that for anyone who wants some demonology POV action later on :)
I’ve also been setting up stream stuff recently, I’ll share that for anyone who wants some demonology POV action later on :)
Share it! I'd love to watch.
10/02/2018 10:02 PMPosted by
Dzdz I’ve also been setting up stream stuff recently, I’ll share that for anyone who wants some demonology POV action later on :)
Share it! I'd love to watch.
Will do next stream, should be tomorrow and thursday 6-9 pst. I'll link it in this thread when I start it up.
will follow all and any of you folks. Getting better is the single best thing anyone on these forums can attempt to do. Get some positivity going.
Guild is learning Zekvoz and soon to be Vectis so I've decided to learn destro so I can contribute to the add damage instead of sitting at the bottom and potentially getting benched lol. Watched a few of your videos and I've picked up on some of your tricks. I have opener down fairly well but my main struggle is effectively utilizing Havoc. Do you use any macros for Havoc? Thought about creating a focus macro for it or something along those lines. Also what weak auras do you use for destro?
Guild is learning Zekvoz and soon to be Vectis so I've decided to learn destro so I can contribute to the add damage instead of sitting at the bottom and potentially getting benched lol. Watched a few of your videos and I've picked up on some of your tricks. I have opener down fairly well but my main struggle is effectively utilizing Havoc. Do you use any macros for Havoc? Thought about creating a focus macro for it or something along those lines. Also what weak auras do you use for destro?
I'm not dz obviously but yeah, either a focus macro or mouseover macro for havoc is generally a good thing to have. Makes for one less thing to worry about.
Guild is learning Zekvoz and soon to be Vectis so I've decided to learn destro so I can contribute to the add damage instead of sitting at the bottom and potentially getting benched lol. Watched a few of your videos and I've picked up on some of your tricks. I have opener down fairly well but my main struggle is effectively utilizing Havoc. Do you use any macros for Havoc? Thought about creating a focus macro for it or something along those lines. Also what weak auras do you use for destro?
I mouseover macro
all of my instant casts. If you notice in my videos, I more often than not will use the boss frames on the center-right of my screen to apply dots, havocs, etc.
#showtooltip
/cleartarget [@mouseover,harm,nodead]
/use [@mouseover,harm,nodead][] Havoc
/targetlasttarget [@mouseover,harm,nodead]
Reason being, if you don't have to turn and face the target you don't have to search for it in the room when you can just mouse over the HP bar and apply them. Works GREAT for Affliction and has some good uses for Destro, too if you aren't already facing the second target.
On Zek'Voz, depending on how fast the adds are dying.. you'll probably just want to put Havoc on the boss and cleave onto him. The warriors and void reavers die pretty quickly that you may end up wasting Havoc's duration. If you use it instantly when the warriors spawn, it's often up for the third voidreaver again.
My Weak Auras are ones I made during pre-patch. Which ones are you specifically looking at? Everything is pretty custom - I'll eventually be holding hostage and giving it away to followers/subs on Twitch, but I got love for my Warlock forum friends so I can help you out if you need anything specific!
Also, uploaded new videos from last night/monday
10/02/2018 09:45 PMPosted by
Kigs On the same topic, I'm not streaming but might consider putting up some videos.
Finally 8/8 so I have some free time. I am more than happy to look at logs and answer questions, specifically about affliction.
do it up!
It'd actually be beneficial to link to multiple PoV's in the OP. pick the best performing one, different talents, etc to offer multiple PoVs for people.
10/03/2018 11:54 AMPosted by
Dzdz Guild is learning Zekvoz and soon to be Vectis so I've decided to learn destro so I can contribute to the add damage instead of sitting at the bottom and potentially getting benched lol. Watched a few of your videos and I've picked up on some of your tricks. I have opener down fairly well but my main struggle is effectively utilizing Havoc. Do you use any macros for Havoc? Thought about creating a focus macro for it or something along those lines. Also what weak auras do you use for destro?
I mouseover macro all of my instant casts. If you notice in my videos, I more often than not will use the boss frames on the center-right of my screen to apply dots, havocs, etc.
#showtooltip
/cleartarget [@mouseover,harm,nodead]
/use [@mouseover,harm,nodead][] Havoc
/targetlasttarget [@mouseover,harm,nodead]
Reason being, if you don't have to turn and face the target you don't have to search for it in the room when you can just mouse over the HP bar and apply them. Works GREAT for Affliction and has some good uses for Destro, too if you aren't already facing the second target.
On Zek'Voz, depending on how fast the adds are dying.. you'll probably just want to put Havoc on the boss and cleave onto him. The warriors and void reavers die pretty quickly that you may end up wasting Havoc's duration. If you use it instantly when the warriors spawn, it's often up for the third voidreaver again.
My Weak Auras are ones I made during pre-patch. Which ones are you specifically looking at? Everything is pretty custom - I'll eventually be holding hostage and giving it away to followers/subs on Twitch, but I got love for my Warlock forum friends so I can help you out if you need anything specific!
Also, uploaded new videos from last night/monday
Yeah Im still fairly new to playing desto, I rolled lock this expansion and have solely played affliction until about a week ago. I've been able to stay competitive for our Zekvoz attempts but we are still having wipes at ~50% is so haven't reached lust phase yet. I'm trying to maximize damage on that first add phase so typically I will start to pool shard after the dance phase is over and then start the AoE rotation which typically looks something like this:
DS:I/Ignition Fuse --> Cataclysm ---> Summon Infernal/Berserking (have these two macro'd together due to CD length), RoF and build shards to keep RoFing until the adds are close to dying. Then I will throw Havoc on Zek and start throwing CBs onto the next add. The adds are dying roughly 15 seconds in to Infernal so would it be more ideal to save DS:I for the CB/Havoc burst or use it in conjunction with the AoE phase for more burst?
question, as I've not been raiding in quite some time. On zek'voz as destro, would running shadowburn be worth trying? I know the warriors don't spawn after phase one, but a part of me feels like you can abuse it enough to make the tradeoff with reverse entropy worth it. Plus it's another instant for needing to move.
I really need to start raiding again so I can test these things myself lol
10/03/2018 02:33 PMPosted by
Haunter question, as I've not been raiding in quite some time. On zek'voz as destro, would running shadowburn be worth trying? I know the warriors don't spawn after phase one, but a part of me feels like you can abuse it enough to make the tradeoff with reverse entropy worth it. Plus it's another instant for needing to move.
I really need to start raiding again so I can test these things myself lol
Nah, Shadowburn is a dead talent.
The problem with it is that it's just not worth using a GCD on during Havoc when there are adds out, and with what you give up to take it it isn't worth it in the base rotation.
10/03/2018 02:44 PMPosted by
Dzdz 10/03/2018 02:33 PMPosted by
Haunter question, as I've not been raiding in quite some time. On zek'voz as destro, would running shadowburn be worth trying? I know the warriors don't spawn after phase one, but a part of me feels like you can abuse it enough to make the tradeoff with reverse entropy worth it. Plus it's another instant for needing to move.
I really need to start raiding again so I can test these things myself lol
Nah, Shadowburn is a dead talent.
The problem with it is that it's just not worth using a GCD on during Havoc when there are adds out, and with what you give up to take it it isn't worth it in the base rotation.
that's reasonable. See I haven't really messed with destro too much since wod, so I'm still stuck in the mindset that it does not-terrible damage, lol. Oh well, at least it's decent for leveling lmao
Since I said I'd do it, I'm streaming demonology PoV mythic progression tonight. Basic stream with minimal interaction but here it is for those who are interested:
https://www.twitch.tv/chucklesmash
I'll check chat occasionally for any questions
And I'm back up after some technical difficulties
10/03/2018 11:54 AMPosted by
Dzdz ...
I mouseover macro all of my instant casts. If you notice in my videos, I more often than not will use the boss frames on the center-right of my screen to apply dots, havocs, etc.
#showtooltip
/cleartarget [@mouseover,harm,nodead]
/use [@mouseover,harm,nodead][] Havoc
/targetlasttarget [@mouseover,harm,nodead]
Reason being, if you don't have to turn and face the target you don't have to search for it in the room when you can just mouse over the HP bar and apply them. Works GREAT for Affliction and has some good uses for Destro, too if you aren't already facing the second target.
On Zek'Voz, depending on how fast the adds are dying.. you'll probably just want to put Havoc on the boss and cleave onto him. The warriors and void reavers die pretty quickly that you may end up wasting Havoc's duration. If you use it instantly when the warriors spawn, it's often up for the third voidreaver again.
My Weak Auras are ones I made during pre-patch. Which ones are you specifically looking at? Everything is pretty custom - I'll eventually be holding hostage and giving it away to followers/subs on Twitch, but I got love for my Warlock forum friends so I can help you out if you need anything specific!
Also, uploaded new videos from last night/monday
Yeah Im still fairly new to playing desto, I rolled lock this expansion and have solely played affliction until about a week ago. I've been able to stay competitive for our Zekvoz attempts but we are still having wipes at ~50% is so haven't reached lust phase yet. I'm trying to maximize damage on that first add phase so typically I will start to pool shard after the dance phase is over and then start the AoE rotation which typically looks something like this:
DS:I/Ignition Fuse --> Cataclysm ---> Summon Infernal/Berserking (have these two macro'd together due to CD length), RoF and build shards to keep RoFing until the adds are close to dying. Then I will throw Havoc on Zek and start throwing CBs onto the next add. The adds are dying roughly 15 seconds in to Infernal so would it be more ideal to save DS:I for the CB/Havoc burst or use it in conjunction with the AoE phase for more burst?
Couple things I'd quickly suggest.
Infernal on pull, 2nd set of adds, then dark pact. You get another use out of it and the same uptime on adds.
Don't do more than one RoF when infernal is active. You want to be chaining Chaos Bolts. Go into adds with 5 shards and drop one RoF after Cata and go to Havoc CBs. Havoc boss, CB Voidreavers.