did anyone else find that during the zand’alari questing, the loa are portrayed as being rather weak, mortal creatures, they’re worshipped by the zand’alari and are divine beasts but are killed off constantly, often by the player or mortal beings, why are they worshipped and have so much trust put into them when they don’t even seem to be that powerful of beings
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G’huun and even the Facless are not just typical mooks running around.
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First off, no apostrophe in Zandalari.
Secondly, yeah I’ve had this same thought. Hir’eek, Shadra, Torga, and Rezan all get killed in quests. The powers of Bwonsamdi, Akunda, Gonk, Pa’ku, Krag’wa, and Kimbul are gonna prove insufficient to save Rastakhan in the siege, after they already failed to prevent Mythrax from breaking the Great Seal.
The Loa have been kinda disappointing honestly… but in retrospect, this isn’t much different than the Wild Gods in the Mount Hyjal questline. There is one who’s stayed consistently powerful in every appearance. Hek hek hek…
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i agree i mean hi’reek is brought down by a poison made by 1 zandalari citizen, the spider loa dies to another zandalari troll woman and her bodyguard, and they all around seemed to by dying or getting hurt way too often/easily
Loas have always been weak. Only time loa power is worth anything is when the trolls devour the loas (like the amani and drakkari).
Akunda was defeated by an actual troll hobo.
Sadly its how strong, good entities work in WoW. They’re often killed to show how powerful a villain is. They have to fail otherwise us murderhobo’s wouldn’t have dungeons or raids to do.
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To be fair, both those examples and Akunda have something very clear in common.
They were betrayed by their priest, someone who has intimate knowledge of their god and who likely holds a decent chunk of the god’s own power inside them.
Hir’eek was killed by a poison specifically tailored to kill him by a voodoo practitioner intimately familiar with him. We tested it on Hir’eek’s children. It was not an average poison just anyone could make.
Yazma is Shadra’s High Priestess who has enough power to command armies of Shadra’s children to be her eyes and ears. She’s also using a ritual specifically designed to allow a loa priest to steal power from their god, eventually eating them.
I imagine Akuna was a similar situation as Hir’eek. That was his high priest that poisoned him.
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To some of the loa mentioned here, it seems as if some of their power is connected to their amout of followers. Kragwa had one follower left, apparently, and then died. Akunda was a Loa in a desert that no one really cared about.
Another issue is that we’ve defeated titans. We killed the Lich King, the Earth Warder, titan keepers, Archimonde and Kil’Jaden, defeated Old Gods, most of which with little ‘outside’ help. Outside meaning bringing up siege engines, empowering some group styled flamestrike in the Troll Wars, used minimum artifacts, etc. We often did these feats with our own two hands. It comes back to the rule of cool and the power creep of WoW. A Loa is nothing when you can take 24 of your best friends and defeat a titan, shove an old god back in his cage, or kill the most powerful demons in the universe.
It sucks, but there are few ways to bring down that level power, to make other things feel strong again, without doing some sort of narrative restart. Maybe all the champions die, and your chracter becomes a little upstart named after them for their great deeds. IDK, its just something thats hard to address now.
For Blizzard, gods and otherwise godlike beings exist to be corrupted or killed in order to show how powerful the villain of the week is. It’s always been that way, from the beginning. I honestly can’t think of a single time we’ve encountered a loa where they weren’t being beaten up by someone.
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Yep. The closest we’ve gotten is Hyjal. Most of the ancients were being corrupted, but we saved them. Malorne was the only one who appeared and kicked butt without needing to be saved… until Legion.
Considering that prior to this expansion the loa have almost exclusively been portrayed as power batteries for their worshipers to eat whenever they get a bit peckish, BfA seems like an immense improvement to me.
Kimbul seemed okay. He took out a naga invasion force by himself.
Most of them were either poisoned / drugged then betrayed by someone they trusted, whom in somecases set up precautions, totems and great seals to bind & hold them down so they could do the terrible deed.
Also note, that not all Loa are on the same scale of power. Personally I don’t like Gonk’s level of power because he wimped out on becoming Rastakhan’s Loa because he was chicken of Bwonsamdi - Unlike Rezan who was like “Quit being greedy, ya dead Gremlin.” lol … I mean I’d imagine a RAPTOR Loa to be awesome & a little cocky / extremely powerful (As well as making Jurassic Park references), but hmm… Lets also not forget that a singular animal species isn’t limited to having ONE Loa. Bear Gods for example that I know of are; Ursoc, Ursol, Nalorakk, and Rhunok. Perhaps we’ll see more Raptor Loa / Bat Loa and more in the future (I hope so, I LOVE the Wild God / Loa ).
Yeah, par the course for Warcraft gods. The only ones that didn’t seem this way were the August Celestials, except Chi-Ji.
Cenarius, C’thun, Malorne, various other Ancients, Yogg Saron, certainly others I’m forgetting. There’s plenty of evidence that you can punk down a “god” in this world.
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