Lightfoged/Fel Corruption Lore question

It’s really more about the literal definitions of the word, but from a certain perspective you could definitely say Xe’ra tried to “corrupt” Illidan. But Corruption implies degradation, decay and evil while Purification implies cleansing.

I mean, semantics? What is the best word for magic changing things into a matching magic oriented state?

Perverting. Tainted. Befouled. Corrupted. Stained. uhhhh. Defiled? Twisted. Forged. Molded. Infused. Empowered. Fortified. ? I like perverted.

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It depends on the type of magic involved. Would you call those pretty glittering plants and trees you see around Suramar “corrupted”? They’re just changed by the magic around them, not driven toward any sort of mindset or ideology.

I’m just going to run with corrupted because it works with 2 of 6 things that I know of.

I bet you do.

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“Corruption” just means “an alteration you don’t like.”

The Arcane can definitely alter things. If you don’t like the Arcane, you can consider those things “Arcane corrupted”.

A Demon would probably see the Nightborne and Mana Cats as Arcane corrupted.

It’s one of those PoV things like how the Titans call it “Curse of Flesh” while the minions of the Old Gods call it “Gift of Flesh”.

I prefer the Gift thing because I do like my flesh :smiley:

Would you like it more if I say ‘changed’? I don’t know if continuing to hash out semantics is really contributing to the discussion.

If you want the ultimate answer to your questions without arguing semantics, all types of magic can alter anything.

But sticking too much magic into something can cause it to destabilize and explode, like that Ogre from Deadmines and that Void thing pumped with Fel in HFC.

The official rules created by Blizzard are explained below:

My favourite example of blizzard’s stance on magic was “Removing Frostfire bolt because frost and fire don’t mix.” paraphrasing lightly, but that was in an interview Q/A thing.

Yet they made a staff made of ice on fire in Legion for Frost Mages lol

The true reason why they removed FFB was that it was a spell created to support Frostfire Mages when hybrid specs were a thing. Frostfire Mages are no more, so the spell had lost it’s reason to be.

If it was up to me I would turn FFB into a talent for Fire and Frost Mages that transforms Fireball and Frostbolt into FFB, acting as if it was both a Fireball and a Frostbolt at the same time lol

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As seen in outlands shadow moon valley, old God presence was definitely in the area of dreanor, the terrokor birds were communing with one with the resemblance of Cthun.

It logical to assume that the entangled world above dreanor is old God corruption, due to its color, tendrils, and the fact dreanor has already been linked to old God activity.

Ontop of this, we see via shadowmoon burial grounds, and shadowmoon zone itself, the void has definitely began working on dreanor, void being responsible for old gods, it’s reasonable, and logical to say the planet seen being covered in tendrils, is in fact the voids reach.

Also, refer to anzu, and he’s communing with the “gods of the abyss” who’s whispers drove others mad, and him being brought back to attack the emerald dream.

This definitely sounds like old God stuff.

I’d love for them to elaborate on that particular questline. I think it was more of an obscure thing and they just used C’thun because technology/models were more limited at the time. But the Chronicle didn’t say anything about Draenor getting hit with an Old God.

That’s because it was a ritual to summon it, it was interrupted by the player once we killed the cultists, but as we see in other places, the void doesn’t need old gods on a planet to begin its corruption.

Then refering to all of the old God and void lord references in Wod, it’s clear void corruption was present on dreanor.

The planet in the sky, is likely a corrupted world, corrupted by the void, as we know the plant corruption from the everbloom had only started and wouldn’t have reached that planet yet. And, it’s purple, that’s like a calling card for the void.

The Void stuff on Draenor was because the Shadowmoon clan were drawing on the power of a darkened Naaru, not because of any mentioned Old God existing there. Otherwise Aggramar would have probably taken note and done something about it on his visit there.

Maybe the C’thun model was more supposed to represent generic Void corruption. I’d love to get an answer for that from the lore devs.

Darkened naaru are directly linked to void lords, as seen in the sunwell.

Anzu, the terrokar god communed with what is presumed to be the old gods.

Later terrokar, attempt to summon an old God in outlands, which obviously indicates its corruption had been there for some time to influence this.

That is true. Old Gods are just everywhere I suppose. xD

Yeah, from what I can tell they aren’t really required to be on planet to begin corrupting it, similar to argus, while the world soul was corrupted, it was corrupted by the fel, and yet void corruption still managed to start overtaking the parts of the planet.

It’s likely it was just a foothold we saw on dreanor, and prior to an old God actually planting itself down onto it.

Where as on Azeroth, we’ve seen what old gods can truly be capable of once on the planet, via the black empire, and even locked away, all across the planet is rediculous corruption.

I’d imagine the event of burial grounds prevented actual old gods from landing on the planet by severing their ties with Nerzhul and the dark star. But whatever planet or moon is out in the sky must have already been taken over, what’s concerning however, is the fact it’s very close, and overtaken completely, which would indicate if it desired attacking it could easily wipe out the planet, during Wod it made sense to hold off, allowing the legion to weaken the world, but I’d imagine at some point alternate dreanor is doomed, and we would need to completely sever ties with the darkportal transit there, or risk the next opening being an old God corrupted dreanor, in its entirety invading via the darkportal.

Hard to tell, a lot of directions they can go, I’m curious to see if they move in that direction, as it could make an interesting expansion to have to fight off and even invade alternate dreanor again, but in the present, and after it’s already a new black empire.

That’d be a feat for the Void as the planet right now is under the tyrannical control of the Light. But it would be a super interesting expansion nonetheless. xD

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So hang on, there’s a lot to unpack here…

I assume that something needs to power magic ‘change’. Leaving a a few fel rocks around doesn’t slowly consume the planet. Something has to power it. I’m also under the impression that after what ever drive magic ‘change’ is eliminated, the ‘change’ fades overtime.

Also void driving ‘change’ occurs all over the place. Argus was a prime example. Void corruption was overcoming the fel corruption. Also a lot of things there seemed pretty untouched by fel despite how saturated the place was.

Think of it like heat: The rock (not to be confused with The Rock :smiley: ) has a certain amount of Fel Energy. Over time it will emit that energy to it’s non-fel saturated surroundings, but eventually it will run out of Fel and that Fel energy it emitted will be stretched thin. At this point it will be insufficient to cause any change.

But if you have a large source of Fel connected to your rock, it will emit until the large source is depleted.

I wouldn’t say it is eliminated, but it certainly becomes vulnerable to being changed back.

For instance, the Emerald Dream is full of Life Magic. Once the Nightmare (Void Magic) was repelled, it changed back because the Life Magic that was all around it was allowed in to change it all back.

But Orcs, for instance, are still green. There was nothing to cause them to change back, so they didn’t.

Not really. The Void was taking over Mac’Aree, which was basically the only place in Argus mostly untouched by Fel.

As we saw during the Kil’jaeden defeat Cinematic, Kil’jaeden only joined the Legion because he saw no alternative. He didn’t want to be a Demon. I suspect he, as the Legion’s second in command, pulled some strings to convince the rest of the Legion to leave Mac’Aree as untouched as possible. That was the city where he lived, after all.

The few Legion Forces we find in Mac’Aree are probably a recent development caused by Kil’Jaeden’s death.