I suggest the Title of this post being implemented in the game and let me explain you how it should work, to get in Normal LFR you will need min ilv of course and let’s say 2 clears on the boss wing you want to join from current LFR difficulty level, to join Heroic LFR you will need 2-3 clears of Normal LFR and to get in Mythic LFR 2-3 clears on Heroic LFR, that way you will have experience and proved that you can progress to the higher difficulties, the reason I came up with this idea probably know already is because current raid groups are mostly toxic and want AOTC, I don’t have time to go in a progression group and waste 2-3 hours of my time when I just want the finale boss mount drop or farm for specific item or target missing transmog set pieces. There are a lot of people that will enjoy this system for those that disagree keep joining these groups if you want and stay in guilds, I have zero problems with that.
If all the raid groups you’re joining are toxic then it sounds like you’re not vetting them properly. Trial with a raid group before you commit. Run keys with them or come to a few raid nights before joining, don’t be afraid to look off your main server either. Don’t need group finder for all difficulties, you just gotta be willing to put in a bit more work yourself to find a good group of people.
he wants to be carried.
Doesn’t want to be there for prog, does want to be there when it’s farm.
Yeah I decided to investigate and looked at his logs, and given mine are no better for the content I’m doing so I don’t have much room to talk, hes gray parsing and doing under 70k damage -except- for fyrakk. Then hes doing 100k damage.
He literally just wants to be carried. Couldn’t agree more.
He admits it himself, logs irrelevant.
Prog is a waste of time, and people who have already done it don’t want him. Hence every group is “toxic.”
Tell me bros how is that getting carried when I suggest a system that requires you to have the experience for the boss fight and the ilv for it, the only thing I want is to avoid the hassle of getting into a group manually, for example I wanted to do Fyrakk heroic…got him on normal and know the encounter and I have 470 ilv which is enough for it if you know what mechanics are for the fight but the thing is people want it easy like you and be over geared for the boss…I just want easier and more realistic way in, you guys want easier timed fight and farm it like a robot every week!
You realise the only people who would queue for such a thing are people who cant get into other groups, and as such they were be progression runs with players who haven’t done it before and take multiple hours / disband at the first minor inconvenience.
Because you said it yourself:
I don’t have time to go in a progression group and waste 2-3 hours of my time
Early on, spent hours dying to heroic bosses.
Don’t forget to add spectator mode to these. Please.
Good idea dude I will pull some connections and make it happen
it’s a DOA feature for the simple fact that even in LFR, Determination must exist for many bosses.
That feeling you get when you join lfr and there’s bones everywhere and folks sitting at 9 stacks of determination
Good old
Lei Shen
Archimonde
Kil’jaeden
G’huun
N’zoth
LFR n’zoth made me lose faith in humanity. Who knew pressing and channeling an ability for 4 seconds was too hard
The point of higher difficulties is to progress them. And there is no way that you will be able to prog heroic bosses with mechanics, in this way.
Do you think that all you have to do is get invited to a group and then you will clear heroic bosses in a couple hours? I am sorry, but that just wont happen.
What would happen, is the forums would be aflame with the people queing for heroic bosses, and not being able to kill anything. They may have the ilvl, and got dragged through a normal or 2. But they wont have the DPS, Healing or Tanking to do heroic. And heroic isnt that challenging, it just requires mechanics to be done.
LFR Archimonde is where I learned that Determination caps at 10. For the next dozen pulls.
You don’t, though, if your only experience is normal. Just like I have no clue what the fight mechanics are for Mythic.
Mythic has numerous instant wipe mechanisms and conditions for failure. Some mechanics that wipe you on lower difficulties exist with greater severity or application on Mythic.
How would you apply an “LFR Mythic” with mechanics like Fyrakk’s P3 seeds/corrupted seeds? Tindral’s flight and fire orb root slam/Astral Break overlaps? Smolderon’s sequenced orb soaks (and bait requirement for the DPS check)? Nymue’s group rotation for the mythic add? Larodar’s full raid simultaneous movement for Igniting Growths?
There is no way to add this and have the difficulty matter; that’s why we have LFR, and it’s far nerfed to what it was in MoP from my understanding. Normal, and even most heroic fights, have been steadily getting easier for PUGs, with Raszageth as an exception to showcase that a large part of the random playerbase simply doesn’t adapt.